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The She Wolf of France by Maurice Druon/Reaction on the comments of Kathryn Warner/EdwardthesecondBlogspot

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KING PHILIP THE FAIR, FATHER OF ISABELLA OF
FRANCE

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A 15th-century depiction of Isabella
ISABELLA OF FRANCE
HISTORICAL IMAGE

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FICTION
ISABELLA OF FRANCE DAUGHTER OF THE FRENCH
KING PHILIP IV, THE FAIR
WIFE OF KING EDWARD II,
MOTHER OF THE LATER KING EDWARD III
SISTER TO THE SUCCEEDING KINGS
LOUIS X OF FRANCE, PHILIP V OF FRANCE, CHARLES
IV OF FRANCE
SHE IS ACCOMPANIED BY HER LADY IN WAITING, JOAN
DE GENEVILLE [DE JOINVILLE, OF FRENCH DESCENT],
WIFE OF ROGER MORTIMER, LATER LOVER OF
QUEEN ISABELLA
IMAGE FICTION, FROM THE FILM
”LES ROIS MUADITS” [THE ACCURSED KINGS]
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ISABELLA OF FRANCE, FICTION, FROM
THE FILM ”LES ROIS MAUDITS”

QUEEN ISABELLA OF FRANCE, DAUGHTER TO THE FRENCH KING
PHILIPS IV [LE BEL]
HISTORICAL FICTION
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ROGER MORTIMER, 1ST EARL OF MARCH, PARTNER
IN CRIME AND MOST LIKELY LOVER OF QUEEN ISABELLA
OF FRANCE
 
 
 

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15th-century manuscript illustration depicting Roger Mortimer and Queen Isabella in the foreground
ROGER MORTIMER AND QUEEN ISABELLA ON THE FOREGROUND
15TH CENTURY HISTORICAL  IMAGE

HISTORICAL IMAGE
HUGH LE DESPENSER THE YOUNGER, [ALONG WITH HIS
FATHER, THE ELDER] FAVOURITE TO KING EDWARD II,
WHO DIED A HORRIBLE DEATH AT THE ORDERS OF
QUEEN ISABELLA AND [MOST LIKELY] LOVER
ROGER MORTIMER AFTER THE INVASION OF
ISABELLA AND MORTIMER, WHICH LED TO THE DOWNFALL
AND FINAL DEATH OF KING EDWARD II

 

 

THE SHE WOLF OF FRANCE/REACTION ON THE COMMENTS
OF KATHRYN WARNER/EDWARDTHE SECONDBLOGSPOT
UPDATE
Kathryn Warner has, in my view a great factual knowledge
of the Edward II period [first half of the fourteenth century] but
sometimes a poor insight in the historical events or human reactions, as shows itself in her comments on ”the She Wolf
of France”
Her arguments often lack  historical depth.
By the way, Kathryn Warner deleted my comment……
Silly, in those Internet times…………..
TO MY READERS
INTRODUCTION
As you will see, I’ll give a reaction on the comments of
Kathryn Warner, historian and writer of among else
”Edward II, an Unconventional King” and
”Isabella of France” [wife of Edward II].
Actually, she reacted on an historical fiction novel
”She Wolf of France”, about Isabella of France, fifth
in a series about the French Royal House in the first half
of the fourteenth century ”The Accursed Kings”, referring
to the ”curse of the Templars”
[See under Philip IV]
Below you will see her post [on her website] as my comment.
But I realized, that you only can follow the discussion, when you
know something of the background.
So underlying you find information about Isabella of
France and her father, King Philip IV
But who knows already a lot about the French and English history in
the beginning of the 14th century, in casu the history of Isabella of
France and her father, King Philip IV, can skip this information
and go directly to
MY COMMENTS ON THE POST OF KATHRYN WARNER
ON HER BLOG: EDWARDTHESECONDBLOGSPOT
If not, read the following for more information:
AND ENJOY THE TRAVEL TO THE PAST!

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[EdwardthesecondBlogspot]/Philip IV of France/29 november 1314: Death of Philip IV of France

 

 

 

29 NOVEMBER 1314: DEATH OF PHILIP IV OF FRANCE
To my readers:
FOREWORD AND BACKGROUND:
Since the French King Philip IV is seen on the Edward II Blogspot,
hereby some information about
 the relation between the French King  Philip IV [Philip The Fair] and the English King Edward II
And by the way:
It was because the succeeding sons of Philip IV had no male heirs,
the Hundred Years war between England and France was sparked:
The relation:
King Philip IV was the father in law of King Edward II, since
his daughter Isabella of France [mother of the later King Edward III]
was married off [by her father Philip IV] to Edward II
SPARKING THE HUNDRED YEARS WAR/THE SALIC LAWS IN
FRANCE AND THE ENGLISH CLAIM TO THE FRENCH THRONE:
After the death of King Charles IV, the last surviving son of king Philip IV
and the uncle of Edward III [whose mother was the sister to Charles IV],
Edward III’s mother Isabella of France [the English Queen Isabella] claimed
the French throne for her son Edward III, being the closest relative
[nephew] of the late king Charles IV.
However, apart from the fact, the French nobility would never applaud
an English king ruling over France, Edward III could not inherit the French throne
anyway,
since in France, Salic laws [the right of succession, which exclude females]
were passed in 1316 by King Philip V [predecessor of King Charles IV]
And Edward only could would inherit the French throne by his mother Isabella
[being the daughter of Philip IV and sister to Philip V and Charles IV]
See for the background of the introduction of the Salic laws, based originally
on the  adultery of the French princesses in the Tour de Nesle Affair in 1317
Tour de Nesle Affair
Ironic however for King Philip V:
That King Philip V, who introduced the Salic Laws, of course thought his infant son would thus succeed him.
But his infant son died, he had only daughters left and they could not
inherit the throne………..
HUNDRED YEARS WAR ANYWAY
After denouncing the claim of Queen Isabella on the French throne
for her son Edward III, at first Edward III seemed to accept it,
But by various political causes,Edward III claimed the French throne again, it was of course
rejected by the French [who then had King Philip VI, the first Valois King, the son of
the brother of King Philip IV and thus a cousin of the late King Charles IV]
in 1337 the war broke out
See for the Hundred Years War
AND NOW BACK TO KING PHILIP IV

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[EdwardthesecondBlogspot]/A Royal Adultery Scandal in 1314

 

 

A ROYAL ADULTERY SCANDAL IN 1314
SEE WEBSITE EDWARD II BLOGSPOT

 

A Royal Adultery Scandal In 1314

Edward II’s queen Isabella of France, then eighteen years old, visited her homeland in March/April 1314 to petition her father Philip IV on some matters concerning her husband’s duchy of Gascony. Isabella arrived in Paris on 16 March 1314, the day after her father had Jacques de Molay, Grand Master of the Knights Templar, and his deputy Geoffrey de Charnay burned alive on an island in the middle of the River Seine.  The queen returned to England in late April 1314, just after Edward II’s thirtieth birthday.

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The Wars of the Roses/[NevillFeast]/More nonsense about Isobel and Anne Nevill

 

MORE NONSENS ABOUT ISOBEL AND ANNE NEVILLE

SEE WEBSITE NEVILLFEAST

I stumbled on this while I was on the hunt for information for an upcoming post.

I feel that it needs a response, something to balance the books a little. I know, it’s an uphill battle – the view that poor Isobel and Anne were mere pawns (oh, and Doomed) is so entrenched that it’s going to take a miracle to shift it by so much as a millimetre.

 

 

 

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The Wars of the Roses/[NevillFeast]/Anne Beauchamp, Countess of Warwick, wife and widow

 

ANNE BEAUCHAMP, COUNTESS OF WARWICK, WIFE AND WIDOW
SEE WEBSITE OF NEVILLFEAST
Posted: April 13, 2011 in Anne Beauchamp, Countess of Warwick

I want to look in some depth at a letter written by Anne Beauchamp, countess of Warwick, to the Commons after the Battle of Barnet. She wrote other letters, to several of the ‘ladies noble of this realm’. I haven’t been able to find any of them, but they probably don’t say much that isn’t said in the one I do have. What would be interesting to see would be any difference in tone. This is a formal letter, written to a formal government body. Anne had, by this stage, reached the end of the list of people (or bodies) she could appeal to. I get a strong sense of the woman herself from this letter. Anne knows her rights and knows they’re being violated. The decision taken by parliament to disinherit (impoverish) her, must have been extremely hard for her to take, especially as it was her daughters and sons-in-law who benefitted from it. I can’t help but think she felt betrayed by them.

 

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[Article of Conor Byrne]/The forgotten Countess, Anne Beauchamp, Countess of Warwick

 

THE FORGOTTEN COUNTESS, ANNE BEAUCHAMP, COUNTESS
OF WARWICK
SEE WEBSITE CONOR BYRNE

Sunday, 8 November 2015

The Forgotten Countess: Anne Beauchamp, Countess of Warwick


Above: Anne Beauchamp alongside her husband Richard Neville, earl of Warwick, in the television series The White Queen.

 

 

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The Wars of the Roses/[From Susan Higginbotham]/The King’s Mother in Law, Anne Beauchamp, Countess of Warwick

 

 

 

THE KING’S MOTHER IN LAW:
ANNE BEAUCHAMP, COUNTESS OF WARWICK
BY SUSAN HIGGINBOTHAM

Wife to a kingmaker and mother to a queen, Anne Beauchamp, Countess of Warwick, is nonetheless one of the more shadowy figures caught up in the Wars of the Roses. Yet her life intersected with those of the most powerful men of the time, and her wealth would be much desired by some of those men.

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Painting of Richard II
Richard II meets the rebels on 13 June 1381 in a miniature from a 1470s copy of Jean Froissart‘sChronicles.
ONTMOETING KONING RICHARD II MET DE OPSTANDELINGEN
ONDER LEIDING VAN WAT TYLER
 
 

 
 
Rellen Londen bloedig neergeslagen
ENGELSE BOERENOPSTAND ONDER LEIDING VAN
WAT TYLER

RELLEN VAN DE NIET GEHOORDEN IN LONDEN IN 2011
EEN VERGELIJKING TUSSEN DE BOERENOPSTAND IN 1381
EN DE RELLEN IN LONDEN IN 2011 IS ANACHRONISTISCH
EN STAPT OVER HEMELSBREDE HISTORISCHE VERSCHILLEN
HEEN
TOCH IS ER EEN BELANGRIJKE OVEREENKOMST:
DE SOCIALE ONVREDE VAN DE ”NIET GEHOORDEN”
REACTIE [NADERE BESCHOUWING KOMT NOG]
IS GESCHIEDENIS
RELLEN LONDEN BLOEDIG NEERGESLAGEN
12 AUGUSTUS 2011
RELLEN LONDEN BLOEDIG NEERGESLAGEN/VERGELIJKING
BOERENOPSTAND WAT TYLER EN OPSTAND LONDEN ONJUIST
EN ANACHRONISTISCH
Geachte Redactie
Zonder meer een interessant stuk met wetenswaardige historische feiten, wat
betreft de boerenopstand van Wat Tyler eind 14 de eeuw, een tijd van grote onrust
in Engeland [sociaal en de ”Zwarte Dood”, de pest, de Honderdjarige Oorlog]

 

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Rozenoorlogen en boerenopstanden/Adel tegen adel/Adel tegen het volk/Heersende klasse toen en nu

 

 

 

MACHTHEBBERS UIT HEDEN EN VERLEDEN
WAT ZE GROTENDEELS GEMEEN HEBBEN IS
DE ONDERDRUKKING/BEVOOGDING
VAN DEGENEN, DIE GEEN MACHT HEBBEN
 [In geval van
Louise Gunning, die eigenlijk niet hier thuishoort, maar
in een adem met de rest wordt genoemd door Matthijs van de Sande
vanwege haar onderdrukkende rol tegen het studentenverzet]
HET IS ECHTER HISTORISCH GEZIEN ONZINNIG, ZE ALLEMAAL
OP EEN HOOP TE GOOIEN
DAARVOOR ZIJN VERSCHILLEN EN TIJDSOMSTANDIGHEDEN
TE GROOT
TEGENSTELLINGEN TUSSEN DE ARME, ONDERHORIGE
BOEREN EN DE BEZITTENDE KLASSE, DE ADEL, LEIDDEN
TOT BOERENOPSTANDEN
EN INDERDAAD KON EEN EDELMAN AAN DE ”RIEK” VAN
EEN BOER EINDIGEN
MAAR DAT BETEKENDE NIET, DAT DE ADEL
MINDER TE VREZEN HAD VAN ZIJN MEDE EDELEN.
EDELEN HADDEN DAN WEL GEZAMENLIJKE BELANGEN
[ONDERDRUKKING VAN DE ONDERLIGGENDE KLASSE],
MAAR MEER NOG DAN VAN DE BOEREN HADDEN ZE
VAN ELKAAR TE VREZEN IN RIVALISERENDE
OORLOGEN OM MACHT, LAND EN KROON:
DODELIJK VOORBEELD WAREN DE ROZENOORLOGEN IN DE LATE
MIDDELEEUWEN IN ENGELAND,
EEN STRIJD OM DE TROON TUSSEN EDELEN, DIE AFSTAMDEN
VAN KONING EDWARD III, WAARBIJ PRAKTISCH
DE HELE OUDE ENGELSE MIDDELEEUWSE ADEL ZICHZELF HEEFT
VERNIETIGD
DEZE STRIJD LIEP TUSSEN EN DOOR FAMILIES HEEN
BROTHER AGAINST BROTHER…….
HET VOLK KWAM ER WEINIG AAN TE PAS
TEGENSTELLINGEN TUSSEN DE EDELEN
DE ROZENOORLOGEN
Painting by Henry Payne in 1908 of the scene in the Temple Garden from Shakespeare’s play Henry VI, Part 1, where supporters of the rival factions pick either red or white roses
Armoured men on horses and on foot attack each other with swords and polearms in a river. The ones on the right are seeking to flee the battle while pursued by the mass of men who are charging in from the left.
Battle of Towton, as depicted by Richard Caton Woodville, Jr. (1856–1927)
 
 
Two groups of black armoured knights, mounted and on foot, charge at each other, fighting with swords and lances.
Late 15th-century artistic portrayal of the battle: Edward IV (left), wearing a circlet and mounted on a horse, leads the Yorkist charge and pierces the Earl of Warwick (right) with his lance; in reality, Warwick was not killed by Edward.
 
 
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The battle of Tewkesbury, depicted in a Ghentmanuscript
TEGENSTELLINGEN TUSSEN DE ADEL EN HET VOLK
HEERSERS EN ONDERDRUKTEN/ARMOEDE EN RIJKDOM
BOERENOPSTANDEN
JACQUERIE, FRANSE BOERENOPSTAND IN 1358
GEDURENDE DE HONDERDJARIGE OORLOG MET FRANKRIJK
Peasants’ Revolt
Painting of Richard II
Richard II meets the rebels on 13 June 1381 in a miniature from a 1470s copy of Jean Froissart‘sChronicles.
Wat Tyler
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Wat Tyler’s death (left to right: [unidentified]; SirWilliam Walworth, Mayor of London (wielding sword); Wat Tyler; Richard II of England; andJohn Cavendish, esquire to Richard II (bearing lance)
ENGELSE BOERENOPSTAND ONDER LEIDING VAN WAT TYLER IN
1381
 
 
Jack Cade
Jack Cade.jpg

Lord Saye and Sele brought before Jack Cade 4th July 1450, painting by Charles Lucy
 
ENGELSE BOERENOPSTAND ONDER LEIDING VAN
JACK CADE IN 1450, IN DE
NADAGEN VAN DE HONDERDJARIGE OORLOG
MET FRANKRIJK
 
 
 
MACHTHEBBERS UIT HEDEN EN VERLEDEN
Filips IV de Schone
1268 – 1314
Philippe IV le bel.jpg
Koning van Frankrijk
PHILIPS IV [DE SCHONE], KONING VAN FRANKRIJK
John the Good
JeanIIdFrance.jpg

Portrait of John painted on wood panel around 1350, Louvre Museum
JEAN II, KONING VAN FRANKRIJK
DE BOERENOPSTAND
DE JAQUERIE VOND ONDER ZIJN HEERSCHAPPIJ PLAATS,
MAAR ZIJN ZOON, DE LATERE KAREL V, ONDERDRUKTE
DE OPSTAND [JEAN II WAS OP DAT MOMENT IN
ENGELSE KRIJGSGEVANGENSCHAP, TIJDENS DE HONDERDJARIGE
OORLOG
Charles V the Wise
Karel V van Frankrijk.jpg
King of France
KAREL V, KONING VAN FRANKRIJK, ZOON VAN JEAN II EN
ONDERDRUKKER VAN DE BOERENOPSTAND DE JACQUERIE
IN 1358, ALS REGENT VAN ZIJN VADER JEAN II, DIE
OP DAT MOMENT IN ENGELSE KRIJGSGEVANGENSCHAP
WAS, TIJDENS DE HONDERDJARIGE OORLOG
Richard II
Richard II King of England.jpg

Portrait at Westminster Abbey, mid-1390s
RICHARD II, KONING VAN ENGELAND
ONDERDRUKKER BOERENOPSTAND
WAT TYLER
Henry V
King Henry V from NPG.jpg
HENDRIK V, KONING VAN ENGELAND
Henry VI
King Henry VI from NPG (2).jpg
King of England (more…)
HENDRIK VI, KONING VAN ENGELAND
ONDERDRUKKER VAN DE BOERENOPSTAND
ONDER LEIDING VAN JACK CADE
[Daarbij moet wel gezegd worden, dat Hendrik VI een
voor die tijd zachtmoedige en vredelievende koning was,
die daarnaast psychische problemen had en vaak niet
in staat was om te regeren, waardoor
veel beslissingen door zijn raadgevers werden genomen]
Onder zijn heerschappij braken de Rozenoorlogen uit,
een strijd tussen edelen om de kroon [die edelen
stamden af van Koning Edward III, evenals Hendrik VI]
Henry VIII
Workshop of Hans Holbein the Younger - Portrait of Henry VIII - Google Art Project.jpg

King Henry VIII by Hans Holbein the Younger,Walker Art Gallery, Liverpool.
HENDRIK VIII, KONING VAN ENGELAND
LODEWIJK XIV, KONING VAN FRANKRIJK
LOUISE GUNNING, VOORMALIG VOORZITTER
UVA, AUTOCRATISCH UNIVERSITEITS
BESTUURDER/ONDERDRUKKER RECHTEN STUDENTEN
MARK RUTTE, PREMIER
ONDERDRUKKER SOCIAAL ZWAKKEREN [BEZUINIGINGEN]
EN VLUCHTELINGEN [BED, BAD EN BROOD AKKOORD]
DIEDERIK SAMSOM
FRACTIEVOORZITTER PVDA
ONDERDRUKKER SOCIAAL ZWAKKEREN
[BEZUINIGINGEN] EN VLUCHTELINGEN [
BED, BAD EN BROOD AKKOORD]
REACTIE OP
MATTHIJS VAN DE SANDE/GOEDE MAATSCHAPPIJANALYSE/
ONZUIVERE HISTORIE INTERPRETRATIE
HEERSENDE KLASSE EN HET VOLK/TEGENSTELLINGEN
EN STRATEGIEEEN
Matthijs van de Sande, huiscolumnist van de antiracistische website
”Doorbraak”, die doorgaans goede en strijdbare stukken schrijft [1], kan zich
beter niet op het pad der geschiedenis begeven..
Maatschappijkritiek, van deze tijd, lijkt hem beter op het lijf geschreven.
Ik doel hier op een overigens interessant stuk, dat hij in juni van dit
jaar heeft geschreven:
”Zijn ze eigenlijk nog wel bang genoeg?” [2]

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[EdwardthesecondBlogspot]/Roger Mortimer’s grandchildren

 

 

I did a genealogical post recently about Henry of Lancaster’s grandchildren which seemed to go down rather well, and here’s one about some of the grandchildren of Roger Mortimer, lord of Wigmore and first earl of March (25 April 1287 – 29 November 1330) and Joan Geneville (2 February 1286 – 19 October 1356).  The couple married in 1301 and had four sons and eight daughters (see Ian Mortimer’s The Greatest Traitorfor more info): Edmund (the eldest son and Roger’s heir), Roger, Geoffrey, John, Margaret (the eldest daughter), Isabella, Joan, Maud, Agnes, Katherine, Beatrice and Blanche.  Talking of the latter, here andhere are pics of Blanche’s stunning effigy in Much Marcle, Herefordshire.  Please take a moment to have a look.  Isn’t she beautiful?  Look at the way her gown is made to spill over the edge of the tomb, her hands clutching a rosary, her tight-fitting gown and head-dress in the style of the mid-fourteenth century.  Stunning.  And here is the effigy of Blanche’s sister Katherine and her husband the earl of Warwick, in Warwick.

 

 

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