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Edward II and Isabella/Reaction to the comments of Kathryn Warner[EdwardthesecondBlogspot]

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KING PHILIP THE FAIR, FATHER OF ISABELLA OF
FRANCE
Isabella of France.jpg

A 15th-century depiction of Isabella
ISABELLA OF FRANCE
HISTORICAL IMAGE
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FICTION
ISABELLA OF FRANCE DAUGHTER OF THE FRENCH
KING PHILIP IV, THE FAIR
WIFE OF KING EDWARD II,
MOTHER OF THE LATER KING EDWARD III
SISTER TO THE SUCCEEDING KINGS
LOUIS X OF FRANCE, PHILIP V OF FRANCE, CHARLES
IV OF FRANCE
SHE IS ACCOMPANIED BY HER LADY IN WAITING, JOAN
DE GENEVILLE [DE JOINVILLE, OF FRENCH DESCENT],
WIFE OF ROGER MORTIMER, LATER LOVER OF
QUEEN ISABELLA
IMAGE FICTION, FROM THE FILM
”LES ROIS MUADITS” [THE ACCURSED KINGS]
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ISABELLA OF FRANCE, FICTION, FROM
THE FILM ”LES ROIS MAUDITS”

QUEEN ISABELLA OF FRANCE, DAUGHTER TO THE FRENCH KING
PHILIPS IV [LE BEL]
HISTORICAL FICTION
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ROGER MORTIMER, 1ST EARL OF MARCH, PARTNER
IN CRIME AND MOST LIKELY LOVER OF QUEEN ISABELLA
OF FRANCE
Isabella and Roger Mortimer.jpg

15th-century manuscript illustration depicting Roger Mortimer and Queen Isabella in the foreground
ROGER MORTIMER AND QUEEN ISABELLA ON THE FOREGROUND
15TH CENTURY HISTORICAL  IMAGE

HISTORICAL IMAGE
HUGH LE DESPENSER THE YOUNGER, [ALONG WITH HIS
FATHER, THE ELDER] FAVOURITE TO KING EDWARD II,
WHO DIED A HORRIBLE DEATH AT THE ORDERS OF
QUEEN ISABELLA AND [MOST LIKELY] LOVER
ROGER MORTIMER AFTER THE INVASION OF
ISABELLA AND MORTIMER, WHICH LED TO THE DOWNFALL
AND FINAL DEATH OF KING EDWARD II

EDWARD II AND ISABELLA IN FICTION/REACTION TO THE
COMMENTS OF KATHRYN WARNER [EDWARDTHESECONDBLOGSPOT]
ABOUT ”THE SHE WOLF OF FRANCE” BY MAURICE DRUON

This [rather long] article is divided in

A

KATHRYN WARNER’S POSTS

B

HISTORY OF THE FIRST HALF OF THE FOURTEENTH
CENTURY/
ENGLAND AND FRANCE

C

MY COMMENTS ON THE POST OF KATHRYN WARNER
ON HER BLOG: EDWARDTHESECONDBLOGSPOT

D

TEXT OF KATHRYN WARNER’S POST, ON WHICH
I COMMENT
TO MY READERS

In this article, for the second time a critical comment
on historian/writer Kathryn Warner’s remarks about
the historical novel ”The She Wolf of France”, from
the French historian/writer Maurice Druon.

See her comments

http://edwardthesecond.blogspot.nl/2006/05/edward-ii-novel-of-week-2-she-wolf-of.html

Below I give  my readers a further explanation
about Warner’s posts as well [what’s more important!]
background information about
the first half of
the fourtheenth century, regarding France and England.

But who knows already a lot about this
historical period, skip directly to

”MY COMMENTS ON THE POST OF KATHRYN WARNER
ON HER BLOG: EDWARDTHESECONDBLOGSPOT”

For the rest of my readers

ENJOY THIS TRAVEL TO THE PAST AND READ BELOW!

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The She Wolf of France by Maurice Druon/Reaction on the comments of Kathryn Warner/EdwardthesecondBlogspot

Image result for philip iv of france
KING PHILIP THE FAIR, FATHER OF ISABELLA OF
FRANCE

Isabella of France.jpg

A 15th-century depiction of Isabella
ISABELLA OF FRANCE
HISTORICAL IMAGE

iImage result for she wolf of france

FICTION
ISABELLA OF FRANCE DAUGHTER OF THE FRENCH
KING PHILIP IV, THE FAIR
WIFE OF KING EDWARD II,
MOTHER OF THE LATER KING EDWARD III
SISTER TO THE SUCCEEDING KINGS
LOUIS X OF FRANCE, PHILIP V OF FRANCE, CHARLES
IV OF FRANCE
SHE IS ACCOMPANIED BY HER LADY IN WAITING, JOAN
DE GENEVILLE [DE JOINVILLE, OF FRENCH DESCENT],
WIFE OF ROGER MORTIMER, LATER LOVER OF
QUEEN ISABELLA
IMAGE FICTION, FROM THE FILM
”LES ROIS MUADITS” [THE ACCURSED KINGS]
Image result for The Accursed Kings/Images
ISABELLA OF FRANCE, FICTION, FROM
THE FILM ”LES ROIS MAUDITS”

QUEEN ISABELLA OF FRANCE, DAUGHTER TO THE FRENCH KING
PHILIPS IV [LE BEL]
HISTORICAL FICTION
Image result for roger mortimer
ROGER MORTIMER, 1ST EARL OF MARCH, PARTNER
IN CRIME AND MOST LIKELY LOVER OF QUEEN ISABELLA
OF FRANCE
 
 
 

Isabella and Roger Mortimer.jpg

15th-century manuscript illustration depicting Roger Mortimer and Queen Isabella in the foreground
ROGER MORTIMER AND QUEEN ISABELLA ON THE FOREGROUND
15TH CENTURY HISTORICAL  IMAGE

HISTORICAL IMAGE
HUGH LE DESPENSER THE YOUNGER, [ALONG WITH HIS
FATHER, THE ELDER] FAVOURITE TO KING EDWARD II,
WHO DIED A HORRIBLE DEATH AT THE ORDERS OF
QUEEN ISABELLA AND [MOST LIKELY] LOVER
ROGER MORTIMER AFTER THE INVASION OF
ISABELLA AND MORTIMER, WHICH LED TO THE DOWNFALL
AND FINAL DEATH OF KING EDWARD II

 

 

THE SHE WOLF OF FRANCE/REACTION ON THE COMMENTS
OF KATHRYN WARNER/EDWARDTHE SECONDBLOGSPOT
UPDATE
Kathryn Warner has, in my view a great factual knowledge
of the Edward II period [first half of the fourteenth century] but
sometimes a poor insight in the historical events or human reactions, as shows itself in her comments on ”the She Wolf
of France”
Her arguments often lack  historical depth.
By the way, Kathryn Warner deleted my comment……
Silly, in those Internet times…………..
TO MY READERS
INTRODUCTION
As you will see, I’ll give a reaction on the comments of
Kathryn Warner, historian and writer of among else
”Edward II, an Unconventional King” and
”Isabella of France” [wife of Edward II].
Actually, she reacted on an historical fiction novel
”She Wolf of France”, about Isabella of France, fifth
in a series about the French Royal House in the first half
of the fourteenth century ”The Accursed Kings”, referring
to the ”curse of the Templars”
[See under Philip IV]
Below you will see her post [on her website] as my comment.
But I realized, that you only can follow the discussion, when you
know something of the background.
So underlying you find information about Isabella of
France and her father, King Philip IV
But who knows already a lot about the French and English history in
the beginning of the 14th century, in casu the history of Isabella of
France and her father, King Philip IV, can skip this information
and go directly to
MY COMMENTS ON THE POST OF KATHRYN WARNER
ON HER BLOG: EDWARDTHESECONDBLOGSPOT
If not, read the following for more information:
AND ENJOY THE TRAVEL TO THE PAST!

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[EdwardthesecondBlogspot]/Philip IV of France/29 november 1314: Death of Philip IV of France

 

 

 

29 NOVEMBER 1314: DEATH OF PHILIP IV OF FRANCE
To my readers:
FOREWORD AND BACKGROUND:
Since the French King Philip IV is seen on the Edward II Blogspot,
hereby some information about
 the relation between the French King  Philip IV [Philip The Fair] and the English King Edward II
And by the way:
It was because the succeeding sons of Philip IV had no male heirs,
the Hundred Years war between England and France was sparked:
The relation:
King Philip IV was the father in law of King Edward II, since
his daughter Isabella of France [mother of the later King Edward III]
was married off [by her father Philip IV] to Edward II
SPARKING THE HUNDRED YEARS WAR/THE SALIC LAWS IN
FRANCE AND THE ENGLISH CLAIM TO THE FRENCH THRONE:
After the death of King Charles IV, the last surviving son of king Philip IV
and the uncle of Edward III [whose mother was the sister to Charles IV],
Edward III’s mother Isabella of France [the English Queen Isabella] claimed
the French throne for her son Edward III, being the closest relative
[nephew] of the late king Charles IV.
However, apart from the fact, the French nobility would never applaud
an English king ruling over France, Edward III could not inherit the French throne
anyway,
since in France, Salic laws [the right of succession, which exclude females]
were passed in 1316 by King Philip V [predecessor of King Charles IV]
And Edward only could would inherit the French throne by his mother Isabella
[being the daughter of Philip IV and sister to Philip V and Charles IV]
See for the background of the introduction of the Salic laws, based originally
on the  adultery of the French princesses in the Tour de Nesle Affair in 1317
Tour de Nesle Affair
Ironic however for King Philip V:
That King Philip V, who introduced the Salic Laws, of course thought his infant son would thus succeed him.
But his infant son died, he had only daughters left and they could not
inherit the throne………..
HUNDRED YEARS WAR ANYWAY
After denouncing the claim of Queen Isabella on the French throne
for her son Edward III, at first Edward III seemed to accept it,
But by various political causes,Edward III claimed the French throne again, it was of course
rejected by the French [who then had King Philip VI, the first Valois King, the son of
the brother of King Philip IV and thus a cousin of the late King Charles IV]
in 1337 the war broke out
See for the Hundred Years War
AND NOW BACK TO KING PHILIP IV

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[EdwardthesecondBlogspot]/A Royal Adultery Scandal in 1314

 

 

A ROYAL ADULTERY SCANDAL IN 1314
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A Royal Adultery Scandal In 1314

Edward II’s queen Isabella of France, then eighteen years old, visited her homeland in March/April 1314 to petition her father Philip IV on some matters concerning her husband’s duchy of Gascony. Isabella arrived in Paris on 16 March 1314, the day after her father had Jacques de Molay, Grand Master of the Knights Templar, and his deputy Geoffrey de Charnay burned alive on an island in the middle of the River Seine.  The queen returned to England in late April 1314, just after Edward II’s thirtieth birthday.

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