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TOFIK DIBI STORY/WHAT HAPPENED/KLACHTMAIL AAN NPO OMBUDSVROUW

Astrid Essed Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 8:56 AM
To: “ombudsman@npo.nl” <ombudsman@npo.nl>Cc: “redactie@powned.tv” <redactie@powned.tv>
AAN:NPO OMBUDSVROUWMevrouw M. SmitOnderwerp: Onjuiste en tendentieuze berichtgeving Pownews overde ”Kakkerlak Tweet-Tweet Israel” van ex politicus en huidig bestuursadviseur van het Stadsdeel Amsterdam Nieuw West, de heer Tofik Dibi


Geachte mevrouw Smit,
Ik heb in de loop der jaren veel slechte en tendentieuze berichtgevingde revu zien passeren, over allerhande onderwerpen, maar dit slaat werkelijkalles en daarom-dat zeg ik maar alvast vooraf- verwacht en eis ik van u, dat uhiertegen optreedt, met name omdat het Pownews betreft:Raadt u het al?Hebt u er al meer mails en berichten over ontvangen?Ik hoop van wel
DE ZAAK TOFIK DIBIWAT IS ER HIER AAN DE HAND?
Wat ik van de achtergronden weet, is het volgende:Naar aanleiding van het Israelische optreden in het bezette Oost-Jeruzalem en het tevens bezette Gaza [1], vonden er een aantal demonstraties plaats,waaronder een pro Israelische, op 20 mei jongstleden, georganiseerddoor het CIDI onder het mom van ”Voor Israel, tegen Hamas” [2], waaraan ookvijf Tweede Kamerleden deelnamen [van de partijen PVV, SGP, Christen-Unie,Groep van Haga en JA21] [3]Ook lieten de Kamerleden zich fotograferen, omwikkeld inIsraelische vlaggen. [4] 
Ex politicus Tofik Dibi, solidair met de Palestijnse zaak [5], uitte zijnafkeer van dit alles met de volgende Tweet op zijn Twitteraccount:
”Tofik@Tofik DibiAls antwoord op @Tofik Dibi
Ik sluit af met de wens, dat alle Kamerleden die met de Israelischevlag [plaatje van de Israelische vlag] op de foto gingen in een doorCIDI georchestreerde goedpraterij show van misdaden tegen de menselijkheid bij hun eerstvolgende terrasbezoek pas na 1 uur geholpen worden in hetEngels en buikgriep krijgen van iets op t menu
8.28 p.m. 21 mei Twitter for iPhone. ” [6]
Uit mijn informatie blijkt, dat Dibi daarop forse haatmail over zich heenkreeg [7], waaronder een aanval van Telegraaf journalist Mike Muller [8]
En dan weer naar aanleiding van de aanval van Telegraaf journalistMike Muller kwam Tofik Dibi met de geruchtmakende ”kakkerlakken tweet”
” Als antwoord op @TofikDibiJe tl zodra iemand van de T je adresseert 
Daaronder een plaatje met door elkaar krioelende kakkerlakken
9.17 p.m. 21 mei 2021 Twitter for iPhone” [9]
VOORAF GEZEGD:
Beide Tweets vind ik persoonlijk kinderachtig en weinig verheffend.Zeker een ex politicus zou beter moeten weten.
Ik persoonlijk ben een verklaard tegenstander van de Israelische bezettings enapartheidspolitiek [10], maar ik erken volledig het recht van mensen,die daar anders over denken en ergo pro Israel zijn, om te demonstreren.Het getuigt van weinig stijl om ze ziektes te gaan toewensen.En ook verwijzingen naar kakkerlakken, in casu Telegraafjournalisten en/of Telegraafhetzes, zijn onacceptabel.
POWNEWS BERICHTRGEVINGATENDENTIEUS
MAAR DAT GEZEGD HEBBENDE:
Dat geeft nieuwsprogramma nog niet het recht, de hele zaak te gaanverdraaien en erger nog: Een tendentieus, leugenachtig en absoluut onacceptabel nieuwsitem te maken,waarin Tofik Dibi’s Tweets totaal uit zijn verband worden gerukt enzij als anti-semitisch worden gebrandmerkt.Dat is niet alleen tendentieus, het zijn  gewoon aperte LEUGENS!
POWNEWS[POWNED] INTERVIEWNaar het Interview, dat ik onder noot 11 keurig voor u heb getranscribeerd:
DE BUIKGRIEP TWEET
Al bij het begin van de uitzending begint de Pownews, bij mondevan de interviewster, met haar beschuldiging:
Ik citeer:”’Een opvallende tweet van de altijd zo woke Tofik Dibi:Hij twiiterde er lustig op los en het had een opvallend anti-semitisch karakter….Waarna de buikgriep” tweet in beeld wordt gebracht [12]Daarna merkt de interviewster op:””De vraag is:Moet dit verhaal een staartje krijgen?” [13]
NOW WAIT A MINUTE!De buikgriep tweet is kinderachtigDe buikgriep tweet is smakeloos
Maar wat heeft dat met anti-semitisme te maken?Anti-semitisme is immers:”Discriminatie en racistische behandeling van Joden op basis van hunetniciteit en religie.” [14]Waar in deze tweet is het woord ”Jood” gevallen of is er naar Jodenverwezen?Lees nog eens de Tweet:”Tofik@Tofik DibiAls antwoord op @Tofik Dibi
Ik sluit af met de wens, dat alle Kamerleden die met de Israelischevlag [plaatje van de Israelische vlag] op de foto gingen in een doorCIDI georchestreerde goedpraterij show van misdaden tegen de menselijkheid bij hun eerstvolgende terrasbezoek pas na 1 uur geholpen worden in het Engels en buikgriep krijgen van iets op t menu
8.28 p.m. 21 mei Twitter for iPhone. ‘ [15]
De reacties zijn voorspelbaar:Zowel mevrouw H Luden [directrice van het Cidi] als mevrouw E Voet[hoofdredactrice van het Nieuw Israelitisch Weekbklad], die worden geinterviewd, gaan vrolijk met de anti semitisme beschuldigingen van Pownews mee. [16]
KAKKERLAKKEN TWEET
Nog erger vind ik de Pownews hetze over de zogenaamde ”Kakkerlakken Tweet” door Pownews ook genoemd de ”Kakkerlakken Tweet Israel” [17], terwijl er door hem geen enkele link werd gelegd tussen Israel enkakkerlakken, maar in verband werd gebracht met de Telegraaf aanval.Lees maar over wat ik er in bovenstaande over gezegd heb.
Maar veel, veel erger dan Israel vind ik de link, die Pownews legt tussende mogelijke associatie, door Dibi, van Joden met kakkerlakken:Dat dit door Pownews bewust is gedaan, is goed te zien aan de reactievan mevrouw Voet [hoofdredactrice Nieuw Israelitisch Weekblad]
Ik citeer haar in het Pownews interview:””Het was werkelijk buiten alle perken, hij had het over…dat ie mensen, die bij de demonstratie waren geweest voor Israel, dat ie die buikpijn toewenste en hij had het ook nog een keertje over…..[Er komt een screenshot van een Tweet van Tofik Dibi in beeld, zie teksthieronder]
Tofik@ TofikDibiAls antwoord op @TofikDibiJe tl zodra iemand van de T je adresseert 
Daaronder een plaatje met door elkaar krioelende kakkerlakken
9.17 p.m. 21 mei 2021 Twitter for iPhone
 [Esther Voet, hoofdredactrice Nieuw Israelitisch Weekblad]:”…..kakkerlakken. Nou weten we allemaal dat kakkerlakkenongedierte is, het is een ding dat vaak bij antisemieten wordtgenoemd he, Joden zijn kakkerlakken, dus ik stond wel een beetje versteld.” [18]Dat de dame in kwestie versteld zou staan als Dibi ECHT Joden metkakkerlakken had geassocieerd, is meer dan logisch en dat zou absoluut onacceptabel zijn en ja, anti-semitisch, maar het is gewoon NIET waar en dat weet Pownews heel goed!Dat Pownews daarnaast voorbijgangers interviewde, die natuurlijk ookeen geheel vertekend beeld kregen voorgespiegeld, is meer dan griezelig en zelfs gevaarlijk te noemen. [19]Het enge aan het door Pownews verdraaide kakkerlakkenbeeld wordt nog versterkt door de genocide in Rwanda in de jaren negentig, toen de vervolgde bevolkingsgroep, de Tutsi’s, ook werden afgeschilderd als ”kakkerlakken” [20]POWNEWS BERICHTGEVINGBSCHENDING VAN HOOR EN WEDERHOORNaast genoemde tendentieuze en ronduit leugenachtige Pownewsberichtgeving rond de Tofik Dibi Tweet heeft Pownews zich ook nogschuldig gemaakt aan een andere ernstige journalistieke misser:Het niet toekennen van het recht op Hoor en WederhoorWant niet alleen werden alleen mensen, die het politiek met Dibi oneens waren over Israel [mevrouw Voet en mevrouw Luden] aan het woord gelaten, wat erger is, is het feit, dat Dibi zelf niet de kans kreeg, zich te verdedigen.En zeker met zoiets ernstigs als een anti semitisme beschuldiging had datzeker het geval moeten zijn.POWNEWS BERICHTGEVINGCLEUGENACHTIGEen belangrijke derde pijler waarin Pownews ernstig en bewustde fout in is gegaan, is het absolute leugenachtige karakter van het nieuwsitemDat is in strijd met een belangrijk criterium uit de ”Leidraad voor deJournalistiek” [21]”De Leidraad gaat uit van een paar belangrijke principes:”Goede journalistiek is waarheidsgetrouw en nauwgezet.” [22]Nu, mevrouw Smit:Ronduit LEUGENS heeft Pownews hier gedebiteerd, door een”Buikgriep Tweet” van  Dibi, die weliswaar niet van bon ton getuigde,”anti-semitisch” te noemen, terwijl het woord ”Jood”, noch enige”Jodenhaat” erin voorkwam!”’Tofik@Tofik DibiAls antwoord op @Tofik Dibi
Ik sluit af met de wens, dat alle Kamerleden die met de Israelischevlag [plaatje van de Israelische vlag] op de foto gingen in een doorCIDI georchestreerde goedpraterij show van misdaden tegen de menselijkheid bij hun eerstvolgende terrasbezoek pas na 1 uur geholpen worden in hetEngels en buikgriep krijgen van iets op t menu
8.28 p.m. 21 mei Twitter for iPhone. ” [23]
Door een ”kakkerlaktweet” door te laten gaan voor ”anti-semitisch” of[wat ook niet zo was], een associatie suggererend met Israel, terwijl deze sloeg op een reactie van Dibi op een Telegraaf aanval”’ Tofik@TofikDibiJe tl zodra iemand van de T je adresseert 
Daaronder een plaatje met door elkaar krioelende kakkerlakken
9.17 p.m. 21 mei 2021 Twitter for iPhone” [24]Waar is hier een verwijzing naar Joden?Waar naar Jodenhaat?Waar naar Israel?
Tijd, dat een dergelijke vorm van leugenachtige voorstellingen van zakenwordt aangepakt!En dat kan en moet gebeuren door u, mevrouw de Ombudsvrouw!Het is UW taak!
SAMENVATTEND
De Pownews berichtgeving inzake de Tofik Dibi Tweets en zijn persoonis ronduit onethisch, demoniserend, tendentieus, leugenachtig en doet geen recht aan het fundamentele journalistieke principe”Hoor en Wederhoor”Daarom is dit Pownews item in flagrante strijd met de Leidraad voorde Journalistiek [25] en derhalve een taak voor u als Ombudsvrouw, Mevrouw Smit, om handelend en disciplinair op te treden
Ik ga ervan uit, dat u bovenstaande schending van de journalistiekeethiek serieus neemt en daadwerkelijk in actie zult komen
Vriendelijke groeten
Astrid EssedAmsterdam 
NOTEN
VOOR UW GEMAK EEN LINK NAAR DE NOTEN
https://www.astridessed.nl/noten-1-t-m-25-bij-brief-aan-npo-ombudsvrouw-over-de-zaak-tofik-dibi/


ZIE OOK FYSIEKE NOTEN

1]

NRCFRUSTRATIES IN JERUZALEM BEREIKEN GEWELDDADIG KOOKPUNT
https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2021/05/08/frustraties-in-jeruzalem-bereiken-gewelddadig-kookpunt-a4042918

ZIE VOOR GEHELE TEKST:
NOOT 2, BEHORENDE BIJ
https://www.astridessed.nl/israel-zaait-dood-en-verderf-in-gaza-brief-aan-de-leden-van-de-commissie-buitenlandse-zaken-van-de-tweede-kamer/

GAZA NOG STEEDS BEZET GEBIED, VOLGENS INTERNATIONAAL RECHT:ZIE

”Under the “disengagement” plan endorsed Tuesday by the Knesset, Israeli forces will keep control over Gaza’s borders, coastline and airspace, and will reserve the right to launch incursions at will. Israel will continue to wield overwhelming power over the territory’s economy and its access to trade.“The removal of settlers and most military forces will not end Israel’s control over Gaza,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, Executive Director of Human Rights Watch’s Middle East and North Africa Division. “Israel plans to reconfigure its occupation of the territory, but it will remain an occupying power with responsibility for the welfare of the civilian population.”HUMAN RIGHTS WATCHISRAEL: DISENGAGEMENT WILL NOTEND GAZA OCCUPATION
https://www.hrw.org/news/2004/10/28/israel-disengagement-will-not-end-gaza-occupation
TROUWNIEUW DIEPTEPUNT: ZEKER 26 DODEN BIJ ISRAELISCHEAANVAL OP WONING VAN HAMASLEIDER16 MEI 2021
https://www.trouw.nl/buitenland/nieuw-dieptepunt-zeker-26-doden-bij-israelische-aanval-op-woning-van-hamasleider~b3ec7c35/
[2]
CIDI MANIFESTATIE VOOR ISRAEL IN DEN HAAG20 MEI 2021https://www.cidi.nl/cidi-manifestatie-voor-israel-in-den-haag/

CIDI heeft met een manifestatie in Den Haag de politiek opgeroepen om achter Israels recht te staan om zijn burgers te beschermen tegen de aanhoudende dreiging van raketbeschietingen door Hamas vanuit de Gazastrook. Honderden mensen kwamen bijeen om hun solidariteit met Israel te tonen.

Op dezelfde middag debatteren leden van de Tweede Kamer met buitenlandminister Stef Blok over de huidige geweldsexplosie in Israel. CIDI en CIJO, in samenwerking met Christenen voor Israel, riepen voorafgaand aan het debat de solidariteitsmanifestatie bijeen om een signaal af te geven aan de Nederlandse politiek.Het conflict tussen Israel en Hamas woedt nu al meer dan een week. Er zijn ruim 4.000 raketten op Israelische burgers afgeschoten door Hamas en Islamitische Jihad. Israels zelfverdediging wordt telkens weer onterecht veroordeeld door een kleine deel van de Tweede Kamer.Een aantal Kamerleden was ook bij de manifestatie aanwezig. CIDI en CVI boden hen een manifest aan met de oproep om de invloed van terreurorganisaties in Europa te bezweren, Israel in zijn recht op zelfverdediging te steunen en antisemitisme grondig te bestrijden.Bij verschillende pro-Palestijnse demonstraties in Nederland werd de terreurgroep Hamas openlijk geprezen, en werd met leuzen opgeroepen om Joden af te slachten. Het mag niet zo zijn dat Joden in Nederland het moeten ontgelden voor het defensiebeleid van Israel.Verschillende sprekers betuigden hun steun voor de oproep van CIDI, waaronder Ronny Naftaniel, voorzitter van het Centraal Joods Overleg, Bakir Lashkari, die als vluchteling uit Irak 45 jaar geleden naar Nederland is gekomen, en rabbijnen Binyomin Jacobs en Tamarah Benima.“Wij laten Israël niet los. Omdat het een democratie is. Omdat het een rechtstaat is. Omdat het een veilig thuis voor de Joden is,” aldus CVI-directeur Frank van Oordt. Koerdisch vluchteling  Bakir Lashkari deed een oproep voor “vrijheid, veiligheid en stabiliteit voor Israël. Shalom Israël, shalom Koerdistan!” Rabbijn Tamarah Benima legde het uit: “Vrede is het allerbelangrijkste in het Jodendom. Shalom, we bidden om vrede. Vrede voor iedereen ter wereld.” Zij voegde wel toe: “Maar als er duizenden raketten vanuit een autonoom Urk geschoten werden op Hogeveen, wat zou Nederland dan moeten doen?”Daarom roept CIDI op om Israel te steunen, ook binnen de Europese Unie en de Verenigde Naties.Israel heeft het recht, en ook de plicht, om zijn burgers te beschermen tegen de raketten uit Gaza.Hamas moet als terroristische organisatie aangepakt worden. Zij beoogt de vernietiging van de staat Israel en offert de bevolking van Gaza daarvoor op.De Veiligheidsraad van de Verenigde Naties moet opgeroepen worden het recht op zelfverdediging van Israel te erkennen.De verwerpelijkheid van antisemitisme is niet-onderhandelbaar. We roepen de Nederlandse regering op om daadkrachtig stappen te ondernemen tegen racisme, antisemitisme en haat.Zoals CIDI adjunct-directeur Naomi Mestrum de manifestatie afsloot: “Wij zijn hier vandaag om te laten zien dat Israël niet alleen staat. Am Yisrael Chai!”

EINDE BERICHT
[3]”Onder de aanwezigen zijn ook vijf Tweede Kamerleden van partijen die de gewelddadige Israëlische overheersing van de Palestijnen onvoorwaardelijk steunen: de PVV, SGP, ChristenUnie, Groep Van Haga en JA21.”THE RIGHTS FORUMPOWNEWS BESCHULDIGT TOFIK DIBI ONGEFUNDEERD VANANTISEMITISME4 JUNI 2021https://rightsforum.org/nieuws/pownews-beschuldigt-tofik-dibi-ongefundeerd-van-antisemitisme/

[4]
Vijf Tweede Kamerleden, poserend met Israëlische vlaggen tijdens de CIDI-demonstratie van 20 mei 2021. [c] Facebook
De vijf laten zich fotograferen met grote Israëlische vlaggen
…….
THE RIGHTS FORUMPOWNEWS BESCHULDIGT TOFIK DIBI ONGEFUNDEERD VANANTISEMITISME4 JUNI 2021https://rightsforum.org/nieuws/pownews-beschuldigt-tofik-dibi-ongefundeerd-van-antisemitisme/

[5]
https://twitter.com/TofikDibi/status/1398528404820008960


Abusive Israeli Policies Constitute Crimes of Apartheid, Persecutionhrw.org8:35 AM · May 29, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
[6]
Tofik@Tofik Dibi
Als antwoord op @Tofik Dibi
Ik sluit af met de wens, dat alle Kamerleden die met de Israelischevlag [plaatje van de Israelische vlag] op de foto gingen in een doorCIDI georchestreerde goedpraterij show van misdaden tegen de menselijkheid bij hun eerstvolgende terrasbezoek pas na 1 uur geholpen worden in hetEngels en buikgriep krijgen van iets op t menu
8.28 p.m. 21 mei Twitter for iPhone
BRON:
”Op Twitter wenst hij het vijftal toe dat zij bij een bezoek aan een terras een uur op hun beurt moeten wachten, in het Engels bediend worden en aan hun consumpties buikgriep overhouden.”
THE RIGHTS FORUMPOWNEWS BESCHULDIGT TOFIK DIBI ONGEFUNDEERD VANANTISEMITISME4 JUNI 2021https://rightsforum.org/nieuws/pownews-beschuldigt-tofik-dibi-ongefundeerd-van-antisemitisme/
ZIE OOK ALS BRON VOOR TWEET TOFIK DIBI
YOUTUBE.COM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgQmAVtjOegREL ROND TOFIK DIBI NA KAKKERKAK-TWEET ISRAEL
OF
REL ROND TOFIK DIBI NA KAKKERKAK TWEET ISRAEL
https://www.powned.tv/artikel/rel-rond-tofik-dibi-na-kakkerlak-tweet-israel


[7]

Tofik Dibi is een van degenen die zijn weerzin laat blijken over de solidariteit die de vijf volksvertegenwoordigers aan het Israëlische bezettings- en apartheidsregime betuigen. Op Twitter wenst hij het vijftal toe dat zij bij een bezoek aan een terras een uur op hun beurt moeten wachten, in het Engels bediend worden en aan hun consumpties buikgriep overhouden.Het komt Dibi op Twitter direct op grove verwensingen te staan………..
THE RIGHTS FORUMPOWNEWS BESCHULDIGT TOFIK DIBI ONGEFUNDEERD VANANTISEMITISME4 JUNI 2021https://rightsforum.org/nieuws/pownews-beschuldigt-tofik-dibi-ongefundeerd-van-antisemitisme/
[8]
https://twitter.com/_MikeMuller/status/1395811042069041157


Mike Muller@_MikeMuller·May 21Een dienaar van de gemeente @AmsterdamNL die BDS steunt en mensen buikgriep toewenst omdat ze een andere mening hebben. Klinkt als echte inclusie. https://twitter.com/TofikDibi/status/1395801895680290826


[9]
Tofik@TofikDibiJe tl zodra iemand van de T je adresseert 
Daaronder een plaatje met door elkaar krioelende kakkerlakken
9.17 p.m. 21 mei 2021 Twitter for iPhone

BRON
Het komt Dibi op Twitter direct op grove verwensingen te staan, en nadat ook Telegraaf-journalist Mike Muller hem aanvalt krijgt hij een bataljon zogenoemde trollen achter zich aan. Daarop plaatst Dibi een foto van kakkerlakken met de verklarende tekst: ‘Je tl [tijdlijn] zodra iemand van de T [Telegraaf] je adresseert.’

THE RIGHTS FORUMPOWNEWS BESCHULDIGT TOFIK DIBI ONGEFUNDEERD VANANTISEMITISME4 JUNI 2021https://rightsforum.org/nieuws/pownews-beschuldigt-tofik-dibi-ongefundeerd-van-antisemitisme/
ZIE OOK ALS BRONNEN
YOUTUBE.COM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgQmAVtjOegREL ROND TOFIK DIBI NA KAKKERKAK-TWEET ISRAEL
OF
REL ROND TOFIK DIBI NA KAKKERKAK TWEET ISRAEL
https://www.powned.tv/artikel/rel-rond-tofik-dibi-na-kakkerlak-tweet-israel
[10]
ASTRID ESSED OVER PALESTINA
https://www.astridessed.nl/tag/palestina/


[11]



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgQmAVtjOeg





REL ROND TOFIK DIBI NA KAKKERKAK-TWEET ISRAEL
Tekst
[Interview Powned]
”[:
”…Dat hij niet weet, dat Arabische inwoners in dat gebied nota benenaar Tel Aviv emigreren, omdat ze daar hun leven niet zeker zijn. Dus hoe werkt dat in dat hoofd?”
[POWNEWS][Interviewster]”Een opvallende tweet van de altijd zo woke Tofik Dibi:Hij twiiterde er lustig op los en het had een opvallend anti-semitisch karakter….
[Presentratrice presenteert in beeld een tweet van Tofik Dibi met als tekst:
Tofik@Tofik Dibi
Als antwoord op @Tofik Dibi
Ik sluit af met de wens, dat alle Kamerleden die met de Israelischevlag [plaatje van de Israelische vlag] op de foto gingen in een doorCIDI georchestreerde goedpraterij show van misdaden tegen de menselijkheid bij hun eerstvolgende terrasbezoek pas na 1 uur geholpen worden in hetEngels en buikgriep krijgen van iets op t menu
8.28 p.m. 21 mei Twitter for iPhone
[Vervolg presentratrice 0.23]
”De vraag is:Moet dit verhaal een staartje krijgen?”[Hanna Luden, directrice van het CIDI]:”Ik was verbijsterd, ik ben eigenlijk geschokt.Want ik heb zoiets van die tweets die….hij probeertneem ik aan, hoop ik, dat hij probeert kritiek te uiten, maar het kwamover als haat, niet als kritiek en dat is precies het probleem.”[Esther Voet, hoofdredactrice Nieuw Israelitisch Weekblad]:”Het was werkelijk buiten alle perken, hij had het over…dat iemensen, die bij de demonstratie waren geweest voor Israel, dat ie diebuikpijn toewenste en hij had het ook nog een keertje over…..
[Er komt een screenshot van een Tweet van Tofik Dibi in beeld, zie teksthieronder]
Tofik@ TofikDibi

Als antwoord op @TofikDibiJe tl zodra iemand van de T je adresseert 
Daaronder een plaatje met door elkaar krioelende kakkerlakken
9.17 p.m. 21 mei 2021 Twitter for iPhone
 [Esther Voet, hoofdredactrice Nieuw Israelitisch Weekblad]:”…..kakkerlakken. Nou weten we allemaal dat kakkerlakkenongedierte is, het is een ding dat vaak bij antisemieten wordtgenoemd he, Joden zijn kakkerlakken, dus ik stond wel eenbeetje versteld.”[Een voorbijgangster]”Je ziet hier veel Joodse mensen lopen met keppeltjes en zo,maar ik heb begrepen, dat er ook….keppeltje niet durven opte houden, omdat ze bang zijn voor problemen.”[Een voorbijganger] ”Onbegrijpelijk, dat de Gemeente toch eigenlijk zelf eh, in huneigen, hoe noem je dat, personeelsbestand, dat eens moet aankaarten.”[Hanna Luden, directrice van het CIDI]:
”Het is natuurlijk een ex politicus, het is een hoge ambtenaar in Amsterdam,het is een boegbeeld in dezen, en dan moet je goed op je woorden engoed op je beelden passen.”[Esther Voet, hoofdredactrice Nieuw Israelitisch Weekblad]:”Ik begrijp niet wat er in het hoofd van Tofik Dibi omgaat.Hij is binnen de Marokkaanse gemeenschap, staat hij bekend bijvoorbeeldom zijn homosexualiteit, dat hij daar openlijk voor uitkomt, hulde, hulde!, maarhij heeft, hij zegt dingen over Israel, waarvan ik denk, man, heb je ook ooit als homosexueel in Gaza rondgelopen, of in Ramallah rondgelopen.Ik denk, dat hij niet weet, dat Arabische inwoners in dat gebied nota benenaar Tel Aviv emigreren, omdat ze daar hun leven niet zeker zijn, dus hoe werktdat in dat hoofd?[Een voorbijgangster]:”Ik vind het belachelijk, maar ja, heel veel moslims denken er zo over, denk ikJe ziet ook dat in Amsterdam hier ook niet opgetreden wordt, als er vanalles geroepen wordt bij demonstraties tegen de Joden.En dan zeggen ze ”ja, anders gaat het escaleren” , maar ik denk, ik vindhet belachelijk, dat het zomaar kan.”[Hanna Luden, directrice van het CIDI] :’Hij moet heel helder afstand nemen van  ….. die zaken,  daar moet
hij echt heel helder afstand nemen.Nou hoop ik, dat hij het ook gaat doen, want uiteindelijk hebben we met zijn allen als samenleving veel meer aan een discussie, gesprekken, dan aan elkaarcancelen de hele tijd.”[Interviewster vraagt een voorbijgangster]:  
”Denkt u, dat hij ook, eh ja, berispt gaat worden of een straf krijgt?”[Voorbijgangster]:”Ik denk het niet. ik denk dat Femke Halsema daar zelf heel uitgesprokenmeningen over heeft …”[Interviewster]”Ja….”[Voorbijgangster]:”En zelf ook met twee maten meet.Maar ja, dat is mijn persoonlijke mening.”[In beeld komen twee opgeplakte posters:Onbekend maakt onbemind?Lees het Joods Tijdschrift 2020-2021
EN daarnaast hangend:
”Buitenreclame geeft geen vervelende pop”[Met bloemetjesachtergrond
[Voorbijganger]”De mensen zouden eigenlijk door een aantal mensen gehoord moeten worden, in het openbaar”[Voorbijganger, andere dan voorafgaande]:”Uit de functie zetten. Of excuus aanbieden of anders uit de functie.”[ Esther Voet, hoofdredactrice Nieuw Israelitisch Weekblad]:”Ik denkt, dat het een …straf wordt. Ik heb het gevoel, dat Tofik Dibi nietvoor niets zit op de plek waar hij nu zit, weet je, het hypocriete is ook, datTofik Dibi zich voorstaat op bestrijden van anti-semitisme aan de ene kanten aan de andere kant doet hij het zelf.Dus dit is totaal hypocriet, waarmee hij bezig is.”
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ZIE OOK INTERVIEWS OP WEBSITE POWNEWS
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Antisemitisme of Jodenhaat is de discriminatie en racistische behandeling van Joden op basis van hun etniciteit of religie.”
WIKIPEDIAANTISEMITISME
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitisme


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Tofik@Tofik Dibi
Als antwoord op @Tofik Dibi
Ik sluit af met de wens, dat alle Kamerleden die met de Israelischevlag [plaatje van de Israelische vlag] op de foto gingen in een doorCIDI georchestreerde goedpraterij show van misdaden tegen de menselijkheid bij hun eerstvolgende terrasbezoek pas na 1 uur geholpen worden in hetEngels en buikgriep krijgen van iets op t menu
8.28 p.m. 21 mei Twitter for iPhone
BRON:
”Op Twitter wenst hij het vijftal toe dat zij bij een bezoek aan een terras een uur op hun beurt moeten wachten, in het Engels bediend worden en aan hun consumpties buikgriep overhouden.”
THE RIGHTS FORUMPOWNEWS BESCHULDIGT TOFIK DIBI ONGEFUNDEERD VANANTISEMITISME4 JUNI 2021https://rightsforum.org/nieuws/pownews-beschuldigt-tofik-dibi-ongefundeerd-van-antisemitisme/
ZIE OOK ALS BRON VOOR TWEET TOFIK DIBI
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LEES HET INTERVIEW


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WIKIPEDIARWANDAN GENOCIDE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide

”Op bijeenkomsten die door onder anderen Basebya zouden zijn georganiseerd, werden de mannen toegesproken en werden liederen gezongen, aldus justitie. Die hadden niet alleen als doel om de militie op te warmen voor geweld tegen de ‘kakkerlakken’ – ‘inyenzi’ – zoals Tutsi’s werden genoemd, maar ook om hen bang te maken.”
ADLEVENSLAG GEEIST TEGEN GENOCIDEVERDACHTEYVONNE B.
https://www.ad.nl/buitenland/levenslang-geeist-tegen-genocideverdachte-yvonne-b~a0fc9602/

De 65-jarige Yvonne Basebya moet levenslang de gevangenis in van het Openbaar Ministerie (OM). Donderdag eiste het OM bij de rechtbank in Den Haag de uiterste vrijheidsstraf omdat de vrouw in 1994 in Rwanda zou hebben meegedaan aan de genocide op de Tutsi-bevolking.
Bij die genocide, die voortkwam uit een burgeroorlog die in 1990 was uitgebroken, werden in 1994 in ongeveer 100 dagen 600.000 tot 800.000 Tutsi’s en gematigde Hutu’s vermoord. De Hutu’s zagen de Tutsi’s als vijand van de staat en vereenzelvigden hen met het Rwandese Patriottistisch Front, dat tegen het overheidsleger streed. Het verwerd onder Hutu’s tot een ideologie om alle Tutsi’s te willen uitroeien. Begin april 1994 mondde dat uit in een bloedige geweldsorgie.

Volgens het OM heeft Basebya twee jaar lang een militie van jonge mannen geleid, die werden opgehitst om Tutsi’s aan te vallen. Op bijeenkomsten die door onder anderen Basebya zouden zijn georganiseerd, werden de mannen toegesproken en werden liederen gezongen, aldus justitie. Die hadden niet alleen als doel om de militie op te warmen voor geweld tegen de ‘kakkerlakken’ – ‘inyenzi’ – zoals Tutsi’s werden genoemd, maar ook om hen bang te maken. Dat Basebya niet zelf een kapmes of knuppel ter hand heeft genomen, maakt haar niet minder verantwoordelijk, vindt het OM.

Drijvende kracht
Sterker nog: ze was de drijvende kracht achter de orgie van geweld in haar woonomgeving, vindt de officier van justitie. ‘En daarmee een van de meest verantwoordelijken daarvoor.’ Ze woonde in de wijk Gikondo van de hoofdstad Kigali. Dat ze relatief rijk was en goed opgeleid doet haar zaak ook geen goed, zo meent het OM. Ze kon nadenken en, doordat ze geen analfabeet was en en niet financieel afhankelijk, haar eigen keuzes maken. ‘En dat heeft ze gedaan’, aldus het OM.

Basebya is volgens justitie ‘een echte dader’. ‘Juist bij zware delicten zijn het de echte plegers die achter de schermen blijven en anderen het vuile werk laten doen.’ De vrouw zou achter drie moorden zitten die justitie ziet als genocide, omdat ze passen in het streven alle Tutsi’s uit te roeien. Verder beschuldigt justitie haar onder meer van nog een ‘gewone’ moord, van poging tot genocide, aanzetten tot genocide en bedreiging van Tutsi’s.

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LEIDRAAD VOOR DE JOURNALISTIEK
https://www.rvdj.nl/leidraad

LeidraadDe Raad voor de Journalistiek heeft een Leidraad vastgesteld, waarin wordt beschreven wanneer sprake is van zorgvuldige journalistiek en wanneer niet.De Leidraad is ook te downloaden als Pdf-bestand.Mag een journalist iemands privacy schenden? Wanneer dient een journalist wederhoor toe te passen? Kan een geïnterviewde erop staan dat de tekst die hij of zij vóór publicatie ter inzage heeft gekregen, wordt gewijzigd? Moet een journalist die een gesprek opneemt om er delen van te kunnen uitzenden, dit altijd van tevoren laten weten? Mag een columnist of een cartoonist iemand beledigen? Aan welke voorwaarden moet een embargo voldoen?Het beoordelen van klachten is de voornaamste taak van de Raad. De Raad baseert zich in zijn werk op de Leidraad, die aan iedereen – zowel binnen het vakgebied als aan het publiek – duidelijk maakt wat van journalisten en goede journalistiek mag worden verwacht.De Leidraad gaat uit van een paar belangrijke principes: goede journalistiek is waarheidsgetrouw en nauwgezet, onpartijdig en fair, controleerbaar en integer. Zij laat zich toetsen en gaat op open wijze om met opmerkingen, reacties en klachten.Zelfregulering is belangrijk, zeker voor journalisten en ‘de’ journalistiek. Media spelen een belangrijke rol in de samenleving, op veel manieren en op een groot aantal platforms. Zij controleren gezag en organisaties, instituties en bedrijven. Ze spelen een belangrijke rol in het democratische proces. Goede journalistiek kan alleen in volle vrijheid en onafhankelijkheid worden verricht. Daar hoort verantwoording en transparantie bij. Zelfregulering is de beste manier om hier vorm en inhoud aan te geven. De Raad voor de Journalistiek is uitdrukking en instrument van die zelfregulering.In 2007 heeft de Raad zijn eerste Leidraad gepresenteerd, die in de jaren daarna op enkele punten is gewijzigd. Net als de journalistiek heeft de Leidraad onderhoud nodig. Daarom heeft de Raad zijn Leidraad in 2015 herschreven en aangepast, met het oog op de huidige digitale tijd. Daarbij volgt de Leidraad de herkenbare journalistieke weg: van idee, via research en registratie, tot publicatie, transparantie en reactie. In juni 2018 is in punt A. van de Leidraad een passage toegevoegd waarin tot uitdrukking is gebracht dat kwetsbare groepen extra bescherming verdienen. In december 2019 is de norm ten aanzien van bronbescherming verruimd. In mei 2021 zijn criteria toegevoegd voor verzoeken tot anonimisering.De Raad zal regelmatig bezien of er aanleiding is de Leidraad aan te passen. Journalistieke normen liggen immers niet voor de eeuwigheid vast. De Leidraad moet daarom voortdurend onderwerp van gesprek en discussie zijn. 
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LEIDRAAD VOOR DE JOURNALISTIEK
Leidraad
LeidraadDe Raad voor de Journalistiek heeft een Leidraad vastgesteld, waarin wordt beschreven wanneer sprake is van zorg…



ZIE VOOR TEKST, NOOT 21

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[Artikel Peter Storm]/Klimaatrampen in twee dimensies

KLIMAATRAMPEN IN TWEE DIMENSIES

WEBSITE PETER STORM
https://www.peterstormt.nl/2021/08/07/klimaatrampen-in-twee-dimensies/

Geplaatst op 7 augustus 2021 door ravotr

zaterdag 7 augustus 2021

Maand na maand, week na week, dag na dag, hittegolf na hittegolf, bosbrand na bosbrand, overstroming na overstroming. Canada, Oregon, Siberië, India, China, Duitsland, België en Nederland, Californië, Griekenland, Italië, Turkije… Het gaat maar door, het gaat maar door.

Er spelen hier twee factoren, twee dimensies van dezelfde rampzaligheden.

Gemeenschappelijke factor nummer een: klimaatverandering, die temperaturen doet stijgen, met extreme weersverschijnselen van hittegolf en droogtes tot plensbuien als gevolg. Die klimaatverandering heeft een oorzaak: uitstoot van broeikasgas, vooral vanwege productie, voedsel- en energievoorziening en vervoer. Die oorzaak is te bestrijden, en dat gebeurt volstrekt onvoldoende.

Gemeenschappelijke factor nummer twee: beroerde bestrijding van de veelal catastrofale gevolgen van droogte, hitte en overstroming. Niet overal is de nalatigheid even erg, niet overal even hard verwijtbaar: er gebeuren ook echt dingen die nauwelijks waren te voorzien en waartegen je je ook maar moeilijk kunt beschermen. Maar adequaat is de rampenbestrijding vaak bepaald niet, en dat geld maar al te vaak ook voor de zorg voor slachtoffers.

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Laten we eens wat specifieker worden. In Jakoetië, in het noordoosten van Siberië, woedden in juli gigantische branden. Die komen na vijf jaren met zomerse snoeihitte, en in een zomer die volgens de Guardian door functionarissen beschreven worden als ‘de droogste in 150 jaar’.(1) De verschrikkingen doen zich voor in wat de NOS aanduidt als ‘Ruslands koudste regio’. Weinig kou dus.’Volgens lokale functionarissen is daar sprake van de droogste en heetste zomer in meer dan 100 jaar. Temperaturen van boven de 38 graden sloegen alle hitterecords.’(2)

Gevolg is een smerige smog die de gezondheid van bewoners bedreigt. Bewoners beschrijven de branden als uitzonderlijk groot. En ze noemen oorzaken: ‘van de klimaatcrisis tot slechte paraatheid van de regering, tot een verbod op het verwijderen van droog gras, bezuinigingen op bosbouwdiensten, beweerde brandstichting en vooral de hete zomers’.(3) Daar zie je de twee factoren. Het klimaat is op hol. Het bestuur is niet adequaat voorbereid op de gevolgen. Die gevolgen zelf dragen weer bij aan de klimaatcatastrofe: ‘Niet alleen worden er door de branden enorme hoeveelheden broeikasgassen de lucht in gepompt, ook de Siberische permafrost smelt, de ondergrond die eigenlijk nooit helemaal ontdooit’.(4) Door dat smelten komt steeds meer methaan vrij. Dat methaan, je raadt het al, is zelf weer een broeikasgas. Zo voedt de klimaatramp zichzelf.

Dit soort rampen krijgen ene paar nieuwsberichten, maar ze worden al snel door soortgelijke ellende elders uit de publiciteit geduwd. Vaak zijn er zelfs meerdere rampen tegelijk gaande. Terwijl Jakoetië brandde, sloegen ook in het zuiden van de Amerikaanse staat Oregon de vlammen om zich heen een hele grote vuurzee, in wat de Bootleg Fire genoemd werd. Het is de op twee na grootste brand in de geschiedenis van de staat. De geproduceerde hitte is zo groot dat de brand zelf heftige weersverschijnselen op gang brengt. ‘De intensiteit en extreme hitte kan de wind dwingen om er om heen te gaan, wolken te creëren en soms zelfs zogeheten vuurtornado’s op te wekken – kolkende kolommen van hitte, rook en sterke wind’, zo wordt in Common Dreams de New York Times geciteerd. Common Dreams schrijf er doodleuk bij: ‘De Bootleg Fire is een van de minstens 83 grote branden die woeden in 13 staten”, alleen al in de Verenigde Staten dus.(5)

Ook waar de boel niet brandt heeft droogte rampzalige gevolgen. Een enkel voorbeeld, uit Californië. In die staat werd een waterkrachtcentrale stilgelegd.(6) De reden: het water in Lake Oroville staat te laag, vanwege de langdurige droogte. Het waterpeil in dat meer daalde al twee jaar gestaag, en nu dreigt te laag te worden om turbines goed aan te drijven. Daarom ligt de Hyatt-centrale, een stroomleverancier die 800.000 huishoudens kan voorzien, stil. Stroom van elders halen kan wel, maar dan moeten leidingen natuurlijk niet beschadigd raken door bijvoorbeeld bosbranden elders.

Intussen trekken branden elders aandacht. Nu.nl op 32 juli 2021: ‘Griekenland, Italië en Turkije kampen nog altijd met hevige bosbranden. Dat leidde zaterdag tot nieuwe evacuaties.’(7) Op 5 augustus bleek Athene door de naderende vlammen gevaar te lopen.(8) Op 7 augustus konden we lezen dat mensen van het Griekse eiland Evia geëvacueerd zijn wegens het vuur. In Athene kwam as van brand elders omlaag. ‘Griekenland maakt de zwaarste hittegolf in dertig jaar mee. Ook kampt het land met droogte’, aldus Nu.nl dat ook bericht dat bestuurders zeggen dat er te weinig materiaal is om de branden te bestrijden.(9) Weer de twee factoren: het klimaat zorgt voor hitte en droogte. Het bestuur zorgt voor tekorten om de gevolgen te helpen op vangen. Het zelfde kapitalisme dat de rampen veroorzaakt via broeikasuitstoot, ondermijnt tegelijk de bestrijding van de gevolgen via bezuinigingen. Double fun, maar dan omgekeerd.

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Het is zaak om die beide factoren te benoemen. Alleen wijzen op gebrekkige rampenbestrijding laat de diepere oorzaak – en daarmee de mogelijke lange termijn-oplossing, die intussen steeds onmogelijker wordt – onbenoemd, evenals de verantwoordelijke machten voor die klimaatramp. Maar alleen wijzen op de klimaatramp en de noodzaak om fossiele brand- en grondstoffen en voeding op dierlijke basis uit te bannen en zo meer, ziet over het hoofd dat mensen nu in de ellende zitten, en dat zelfs het ogenblikkelijk stopzetten van iedere broeikasuitstoot de huidige branden, droogte en overstromingen niet stillegt. Mensen hebben nu hulp en bescherming nodig, en waar regeringen die niet bieden, worden mensen logischerwijs heel boos.

Dit is een punt dat Kaveh Madani in een iets ander verband maakt met betrekking tot de watertekorten in de Iraanse provincie Khuzestan en de protesten daartegen. Ja, daar speelt klimaatverandering een rol: daar wordt de droogte door in de hand gewerkt. Maar dat is geen reden om Iraanse bestuurders en het bewind waar zij deel van uitmaken, vrij te pleiten. Hun besluiten, hun keuzes, hun prioriteiten hebben ervoor gezorgd dat dat het beschikbare water zo ongeveer overal terecht kwam, behalve daar waar bewoners er iets aan hebben. Alles aan het klimaat toeschrijven laat die bestuurders vrijuit gaan, en dat is niet goed. Dus: ‘maast die wereldwijde strijd (tegen klimaatverandering, PS) moeten we onthouden dat plaatselijke beslissers aansprakelijk zijn voor vermijdbare mislukkingen van milieubeheer die resulteren in de degradatie en het lijden dat we nu zien’, zo sluit Madani – zelf als voormalig plaatsvervangend vicepresident in Iran een d van die beslissers – diens artikel af.

Dat punt houden we beter even in gedachten als we het over Turkije gaan hebben. Ook dat land beleeft een ramp van verschroeiende hitte en vlammenzeeën. Die nam amper verantwoordelijkheid ‘Sommige politici en regeringsgezinde media suggereren dat de Koerdische organisatie PKK achter de natuurbranden zit, al is hier geen bewijs voor’.(11) Natuurlijk, geef de schuld maar aan Koerdische verzetsstrijders!De geloofwaardigheid van dat verhaal was meteen al minimaal. In buurlanden Griekenland, Italië en ook in Albanië en Noord-Macedonië, woedden soortgelijke branden. Daar hebben ze helemaal geen PKK om de schuld aan te geven.

Het is goed om de houding onder de Turkse bevolking te zien. Mensen waren niet tevreden over de aanpak van de ramp, en soms rechtstreeks boos op de autoriteiten. Bijvoorbeeld Kemal Deniz, een Turkse nederlandeer met een huis in in de Turkse stad Antalya. ‘“Mensen zijn hier geschrokken en verdrietig. Ze voelen zich machteloos en niet goed geholpen door de Turkse overheid” , zegt hij. Velen zijn boos omdat er alleen wordt geblust met helikopters en niet met blusvliegtuigen.’ Dat laatste is intussen veranderd – klaarblijkelijk door buitenlandse hulp – maar dat neemt de eerdere indruk niet weg. EN dan is er de zelfgenoegzame regeringstoon. Deniz nogmaals: ‘Erdogan (de Turkse president, PS) sprak op televisie geen medeleven uit, hij zei alleen dat Turkije goed bezig was met blussen.’(12) Het lijkt Rutte wel, over COVID-19.

Meer onvrede, meer contrast. Can Turan, wonend in Leiden maar met Marmaris als plaats van herkomst, beschrijft de evacuatie van toeristen. Die ‘is niet goed gegaan. Sommige zijn in transportboten naar Marmaris gebracht, maar die boten raakten heel snel vol en over de weg kon je niet gaan. Gelukkig is er veel Turkse gastvrijheid. Er kwamen veel vissersbootjes die allemaal meehielpen om mensen in veiligheid te brengen.’(13) Geen adequate overheidsaanpak. Wel de hulpvaardigheid van doodgewone mensen waar het uiteindelijk op aan komt. Can Turan spreekt ook van ‘mismanagement door de overheid. We hebben veel te weinig voorzieningen om bosbranden te bestrijden.’ Geldtekort kan zoiets trouwens niet zijn, want voor bommenwerpers, tanks, pantserwagens en heel veel traangas is merkwaardigerwijs ruimschoots budget. De Koerdistan Unie van Gemeenschappen KCK maakte al een soortgelijk punt, in een verklaring waarin het presidentschap ervan de beschuldiging dat de PKK achter de branden zit, nadrukkelijk weerspreekt.(14) Beetje overbodig wellicht dat laatste, gezien de minimale geloofwaardigheid die de regering intussen rond de branden nog heeft.

Hier en daar is de woede al behoorlijk fel. The Guardian besteedt er uitgebreid aandacht aan(15) en laat bijvoorbeeld een bewoner uit de omgeving van Marmaris aan het woord. ‘Ik sterf en smeek al vijf dagen [de autoriteiten om te helpen]’, zegt die. ‘Ze zeiden dat ze zouden helpen als het vuur bij huizen komt. Welnu, hier ga je, het is bij de huizen. Hoe ter wereld kan zo’n regering, zo’n management bestaan?’ En hij voegt toe: “God verdoeme ze allemaal. Als ze ook maar enige vrees van God hebben, of een geweten, dan zouden ze af moeten treden.’

Er is reden voor zulke woede. Die is losgekomen ‘nadat de regering toegaf dat het land geen bruikbare blusvliegtuigen had’. Aan waterkanonnen heeft het land minder tekort – die worden intussen als blusmateriaal ingezet. Erdogan maakt zich intussen enigszins belachelijk door naar rampgebied te reizen, theezakjes naar mensen te gooien en te beweren dat er zoveel steun komt bij wederopbouw ‘dat “anderen wiens huizen niet zijn afgebrand zouden willen dat die van hun ook afgebrand zouden zijn”’.

The Guardian citeert ook nog deskundige wat betreft bosbeheer, Erdogan Atmis. Die zegt: ‘het budget voor bosbrandpreventie is gereduceerd, en managers op het directoraat-generaal voor bosbeheer die werkelijk deskundig en ervaren zijn wat het bestrijden van branden betreft, zijn uit hun baan gezet en vervangen door pro-regeringsmensen.’ Intussen waarschuwden autoriteiten TV-stations dreigend: ‘Voortdurende live verslaggeving over de branden “demoraliseert de mensen” en kan bestraft worden’. Van de beschuldigingen richting PKK horen we intussen vrij weinig meer.

Het is duidelijk: de regering van Turkije heeft een blusprobleem maar ook een geloofwaardigheidsprobleem. Dat komt er van als de prioriteit van de overheid ligt bij repressie van andersdenkenden, oorlog tegen Koerden en lucratieve prestigeprojecten. Dus ja, die branden worden in de hand gewekt door klimaatverandering. Maar al die boze mensen die nu hulp nodig hebben, en die naar boven wijzen, naar bestuurders en regering als verantwoordelijk voor wanbeleid en asociale prioriteiten, die mensen hebben groot, heel groot gelijk. Dat geldt in Turkije, maar feitelijk overal waar klimaatverandering soortgelijke rampen helpt ontketenen en de overheid mensen goeddeels laat barsten. Mensen zijn wel wegens kleinere aanleidingen aan een revolutie begonnen.

Noten:

1 Andrew Roth, ‘ “Everything is on fire”: Siberia hit by unprecedented burning’, The Guardian, 20 juli 2021, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/20/everything-is-on-fire-siberia-hit-by-unprecedented-burning

2 ‘Bosbranden in koudste deel Rusland: correspondent Iris de Graaf ging erheen’, NOS, 29 juli 2021, https://nos.nl/artikel/2391539-bosbranden-in-koudste-deel-rusland-correspondent-iris-de-graaf-ging-erheen

3 Andrew Roth, ‘ “Everything is on fire”: Siberia hit by unprecedented burning’, The Guardian, juli 2021, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/20/everything-is-on-fire-siberia-hit-by-unprecedented-burning

4 ‘Bosbranden in koudste deel Rusland: correspondent Iris de Graaf ging erheen’, NOS, 29 juli 2021, https://nos.nl/artikel/2391539-bosbranden-in-koudste-deel-rusland-correspondent-iris-de-graaf-ging-erheen

5 Jessica Corbett, ‘Bootleg Fire Has Burned Over 364,000 Acres and Is Making Its Own Weather’, Common Dreams, 20 juli 2021, https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/07/20/bootleg-fire-has-burned-over-364000-acres-and-making-its-own-weather

6 Andrea Germanos, ‘Climate-Linked Drought Leads To First Ever Shutdown of Calofornia Hydropower Plant’, Common Dreams, 6 augustus 2021, https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/08/06/climate-linked-drought-leads-first-ever-shutdown-california-hydropower-plant

7 ‘Bosbranden leiden tot nieuwe evacuaties in Griekenland. Italië en Turkije’, Nu.nl, 31 juli 2021, https://www.nu.nl/buitenland/6148981/bosbranden-leiden-tot-nieuwe-evacuaties-in-griekenland-italie-en-turkije.html

8 ‘Bosbranden rukken weer op naar Athene’, Nu.nl, 5 augustus 2021, https://www.nu.nl/buitenland/6149954/bosbranden-rukken-weer-op-richting-athene.html

9 ‘Bewoners met veerboten van Grieks eiland Evia gehaald vanwege bosbranden’, Nu.nl, 7 augustus 2021, https://www.nu.nl/buitenland/6150252/bewoners-met-veerboten-van-grieks-eiland-evia-gehaald-vanwege-bosbranden.html

10 Kaveh Madani, ‘Iran’s decision-makers should shoulder the blame for its water crisis’, The Guardian, 5 augustus 2021, https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/05/iran-environmental-crisis-climate-change

11 ‘Branden in Turkije: “Van prachtige natuur tot gedoofde open haard”’, NOS, 1 augustus 2021, https://nos.nl/artikel/2392035-branden-in-turkije-van-prachtige-natuur-tot-gedoofde-open-haard

12 ‘Branden in Turkije: “Van prachtige natuur tot gedoofde open haard”’, NOS, 1 augustus 2021, https://nos.nl/artikel/2392035-branden-in-turkije-van-prachtige-natuur-tot-gedoofde-open-haard

13 ‘Turkse bosbranden: toeristen weg, bossen verwoest, mensen in tranen’, NOS, 30 juli 2021, https://nos.nl/artikel/2391719-turkse-bosbranden-toeristen-weg-bossen-verwoest-mensen-in-tranen

14 Kurdistan Communities Union, ‘KCK: “Reports that the forest fires in #Turkey were set by Kurds and the PKK are a lie”’, Enough 14, 6 augustus 2021, https://enoughisenough14.org/2021/08/06/kck-reports-that-the-forest-fires-in-turkey-were-set-by-kurds-and-the-pkk-are-a-lie/ , afkomstig van https://anfenglishmobile.com/news/kck-reports-that-the-forest-fires-in-turkey-were-set-by-kurds-and-the-pkk-are-a-lie-53942

15 Bethan McKernan, ‘Anger in Turkey grows over government’s handling of Turkey’s wildfires’, The Guardian, 3 augustus 2021, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/03/anger-in-turkey-grows-over-governments-handling-of-wildfires

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The Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Interview/A Racist Cuckoo in the Royal Family?

THE PRINCE HARRY AND MEGHAN MARKLE INTERVIEW/A RACIST CUCKOO IN THE ROYAL FAMILY?

Meghan and Harry, who introduced Archie in May 2019, said there were concerns about how dark their baby's skin would be
Meghan said the Queen was one of the first people she met
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ASTRID ESSED KEEPS HER WORD!

YOUTUBE.COMGAME OF THRONESA LANNISTER ALWAYS PAYS HIS DEBTS4.16-4.18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUg2Q4A13Ss

CHAPTERS
RACIST SMEAR CAMPAIGN

LEAVING THE COUNTRY 

GOODBYE TO ROYAL TASKS

THE OPRAH WINFREY INTERVIEW, THAT SHOOK THE WORLD!

RACIST REMARKS AND ”THE FIRM” PRESSURE

STATEMENT OF THE QUEEN ON RACIST REMARKS

RELATIONSHIP WITH THE QUEEN

WHAT’S FURTHER ON THE TABLE

DEPRESSION OF MEGHAN MARKLE

SNAKE PIERS MORGAN!

ASTRID’S WRITING ABOUT THE OPRAH INTERVIEW, FROM

MARCH UNTIL AUGUST

FINAL

[END OF THE CHAPTERS, NOW READ MY ARTICLE!]

[Written between 10 March and 7 August 2021!]

Readers!At 10 March anno Domini 2021  I did a promise to you, that I wouldcomment on the Sensational Oprah Winfrey interview with PrinceHarry and his wife Meghan Markle [1], who both had finally decided not to return to their royal roles and duties [2]However,according to my information, Prince Harry is stillin the line for the throne [3],which I applaud, since as you’ll know, I cheered theroyal couple on from the beginning! [4]Why?Because Cheddar Man finally won. [5]HAHAHA/NO, That’s a half joke!I think one of the reasons is, that here I saw a Couple, that chose foreach other, despite the racist backlash Meghan Markle had from the beginning [6]and the courageous and honourable defense from Prince Harry on her behalf [7].Seems like a modern fairy Tale and Why not?People are allowed to dream, to juice the very life!
That was the Fairy Tale side of it.But like a bad dream in ”Alice in Wonderland” [8], it was not a”and they lived happily ever after” Story, not only because ofthe backlash at first [9], but because apparently there was an evil partyspoiler within the Royal Family.I’ll deal with that later.
But meanwhile the disturbing backlash continued [10], even a nasty petition to strip Prince Harry and his wife Meghan Markle from theirroyal titles ”The Duke and Duchess of Sussex” [11]The petitioner considered the titles as ” ‘morally wrong’ and ‘disrespectful’and considered them as ” ‘entirely non-democratic’ and a ‘symbol of oppression by the wealthy elite’. [12]Be that as it may [indeed, in 21st century monarchs and royal titles are a thing apart], but is this just an outburst of republicanism [13]or…it is more?Because, when it were just them ”holding royal titles”, then why especially directed against Prince Harry and his wife and not against the rest of the royal family, like Prince Harry’s elder brother, Prince William, heir to the throne after their father the Prince of Wales, Prince Charles?[Prince Willam is the Duke of Cambridge] [14]Seems suspicious to me!
Because the whole case felt unfair to me,  I send an email letter to the Council of Brighton, in which I wrote among else:
”Although I am not a British national, yet I take the liberty to write you about your debating the petition of stripping Prince Harry and his wife Ms Meghan Markle from the royal titles ”Duke and Duchess of Sussex”, which were given to them by Queen Elisabeth at the occasion of their wedding. [1]Shortly said:I think this petition is an outrage, a sign of disrespect against the Queen and especially Prince Harry and Ms Meghan Markle and I urgently request to you NOT to grant this nonsense petition;” [15]
I was pleased to receive the following letter from Mr R. Watson, Customer Feedback Officer | Performance, Improvements and Programmes | Brighton & Hove City Council”
””Dear Astrid Essed,

Many thanks for your email. While we are obliged to debate any petition with more than 1,250 signatures at Full Council, the issue raised is a matter for the Crown rather than local authorities. We do not have the power to remove titles and, therefore, the council voted to simply ‘note’ the petition. No further action is being taken.

Best regards,

Richard Watson | Customer Feedback Officer | Performance, Improvements and Programmes | Brighton & Hove City Council”

[16]

The haters did not win! [17]

RACIST SMEAR CAMPAIGN

But like Prince Harry rightly stated in his declaration to defend his then

fiancee Meghan Marke [18], there has been a nasty, racist smear campaign against Meghan Markle from nearly the beginning the press [and others]

knew, that she had a love relation with Prince Harry. [19]

Of course it were not all journalists and the whole press:

Espexially low class ”journalist” Piers Morgan [20] led the smear campaign for resaons he knows best, followed by other journalistic

nobodies [21]

By the way:

This Piers Morgan journalist is so obsessed by his vendetta against

Meghan Markle, that he recently [march 2021] left the ITV Good Morning Britain show program because of his [again] hateful remarks about Meghan Markle, even though she and her husband left the country for a time already [22]

The reason for his nasty remarks led in the Oprah Winfrey interview [23]

and the remarks Meghan Markle made about her mental state of health 

[suicide thoughts] [24]

I refer to that later.

But of course not the whole press was led by either racist or hateful

[or a combination of the two] moties against Meghan Markle:

For example journalist Zoe Williams did a good job with her

article in the Guardian ”Whatever Meghan does, she’s damned. Let’s not

repeat history.”, fighting the nasty villification of Meghan Markle. [25]

Am I saying now, that Meghan Markle is a Saint?

Of course not!

Everybody makes mistakes and she will have made hers:

But here I am fighting the abnormal negative attention, with often

racist undertones Meghan Markle got [26] and I am glad that there were

journalists, who played fair play!

LEAVING THE COUNTRY 

Anyway, partly because of that continuing smear campaign against

Meghan Markle [27], Prince Harry and his wife Meghan Markle, who became happy parents of a son, Lord Archie, on 6 may 2019 [28], decided 

to step back as senior royals, splitting their time between the UK and

North-America. [29]

That was in january 2020. [30]

The MEGXIT, as sensational tabloids called it [31], as if Meghan Markle

made that decision alone…..! 

Cherchez la Femme…../HAHAHAHA

First the Royal Couple went to Canada, later they moved to L.A. [Los Angeles] [32]

According to my information, they now live in Montecito [33], where Meghan Markle expects their second child [34], a daughter, as they revealed

in the Oprah Winfrey interview. [35]

A special Blessing after the miscarriage Meghan suffered last year! [36]

By the way, I forgot to mention, that after leaving England, Prince

Harry and Meghan Markle signed contracts with Netflix and Spotify [37]

A Shrewd Couple!

GOODBYE TO ROYAL TASKS

As I wrote before, in the beginning of this year, Prince Harry and

Meghan made up their mind, not to return to their royal tasks and

duties. [38]

Also we have seen Prince Harry and his son Lord Archie’s right on

succession to the throne remains the same. [39]

 But [and that’s understandable, since they don’t do the

Royal Job anymore] that they lose their royal patronages. [40]

Prince Harry’s grandmother, Queen Elizabeth, issued a declaration,

stating, confirming this grand step of Prince Harry and his wife, Meghan,

stating ”While all are saddened by their decision, The Duke and Duchess remain much loved members of the family” [41]

The Statement of the Queen also referred to the fact, that

the royal patronages were withdrawn:

”Following conversations with The Duke, The Queen has written confirming that in stepping away from the work of The Royal Family it is not possible to continue with the responsibilities and duties that come with a life of public service. The honorary military appointments and Royal patronages held by The Duke and Duchess will therefore be returned to Her Majesty, before being redistributed among working members of The Royal Family.'[42]

THE OPRAH WINFREY INTERVIEW, THAT SHOOK THE WORLD!

RACIST REMARKS AND ”THE FIRM” PRESSURE

So far, so good.

Now the interview with Oprah Winfrey

That D….mnd interview. [43]

Now assuming, that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle spoke the truth

with Oprah Winfrey, did it shocked me?

For a part, yes.

For a part, no, since I already learnt [and wrote about] the racist smearcampaign against Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, by the press. [44]

But now the Royal Family was involved, at least one [or more?] members,

uttering racist remarks. [45]

And not the least!

I quote from the interview:

”Meghan: But I can give you an honest answer. In those months when I was pregnant, all around this same time . . . so we have in tandem the conversation of ‘He won’t be given security, he’s not going to be given a title’ and also concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he’s born.” [46]

AND THAT’S SOMETHING!

OR ISN’T IT?

Before going deeper into this, there were twelve higlights in the notorious

[or famous] interview, which BBC clarified for us [47]:

I mention them for you, one by one:

1 Discussions about how dark Meghan’s baby might be

2 Kate ”made Meghan cry”, not the other way around

3 Meghan said she was on the verge of suicide but was refused help

4  Meghan spoke to one of Diana’s friends

5  Harry feels ”let down” by Charles

6  But the couple’s relationship with the Queen is good

7  Harry ”cut out financially”

8  The truth behind a photograph

9   Meghan ”didn’t do any research” on the Royal Family

10  They exchanged vowed three days before their wedding

11   Archie’s favourite phrase is ”drive safe”

12   And….it’s a girl!

[48]

Now I don’t comment on all the twelve highlights [the Megan-Katie thing [49] I consider as less important, I can’t judge who is right, I was not there], I only mention those things

which I think are really important.

To begin with:

THE FIRM, THAT MYSTERIOUS FIRM

During the interview with Oprah Winfrey, several times Meghan Markle

refers to an institution within the British Royal Family, ”The Firm” and she is very vague about the person or persons who back[s] this:

I quote from the interview:

”Oprah: So, are you saying you did not feel supported by the powers that be, be that The Firm, the monar-chy, all of them?

Meghan: It’s hard for people to distinguish the two because there’s . . . it’s a family business, right? [50]

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: So, there’s the family, and then there’s the people that are running the institution. Those are two separate things” [51]

ANOTHER QUOTE ABOUT ”THE FIRM”/THE PRESSURE

” And I . . . and I remember so often people within The Firm would say, ‘Well, you can’t do this because it’ll look like that. You can’t’. So, even, ‘Can I go and have lunch with my friends?’ ‘No, no, no, you’re oversaturated, you’re every-where, it would be best for you to not go out to lunch with your friends’. I go, ‘Well, I haven’t . . . I haven’t left the house in months’.” [52]

THE FIRM, AGAIN/IT’S WAY OF ACTING

[Quote]

”Oprah: So the institution is never a person. Or is it a series of people?

Meghan: No, it’s a person.

Oprah: It’s a person.

Meghan: It’s several people” [53]

THE FIRM/RACIST REMARKS

I must confess readers, that I don’t get grip on this, no persons

mentioned, no facts to check, no names

”It” or ” those people” can be anyone in the Royal Family, but, assuming that

Meghan Markle speaks the truth about some damaging sides of ”The Firm” [like having trouble with the skin colour of her and Prince Harry’s first child, Archie, a horror story, which was confirmed by Prince Harry, as denying Meghan a form of help, when she was depressed] [54], that Firm must be some important members of the Royal Family.

I puzzled and puzzled, but without more information I can’t make sense

of this.

Only of course, that assuming Meghan Markle and Prince Harry speak the truth, there must be a racist cuckoo in the British Royal Family, which is

no suprise to me, after from 17th centuries creation of the concept of race,

in time of  slavery and colonialism. [55]

Would have been strange if it had not affected the Royal Family.

So ”The Firm” is a vague Institution of a series of people [who, is the big question] in the Royal Family with some power and some of them

have uttered very painful, racist things against Prince Harry about

the possible skin colour of the baby [who turned to be ”Lord Archie] [56]

I’ve puzzled and puzzled, like as I’m sure most people, who

saw or read the interview [I did noth], who that mysterious person or

persons might be, who made those nasty remarks about the skin colour

of Lord Archie, the great grandson of reigning Queen Elizabeth II!

If the whole thing is true-if Meghan Markle and Prince Harry speak the

truth and for now I have no reason to doubt that-it is a nasty business, but, again, not the whole amazing, that racism also exists between the British

Royal Family after from 17th centuries creation of the concept of race,

in time of  slavery and colonialism! [57]

STATEMENT OF THE QUEEN ON RACIST REMARKS

More important is the Statement of the Queen, who spoke out concerns

about those racist remarks after the Oprah Winfrey interview. [58]

Quoting the message of Buckingham Palace:

”The whole family is saddened to learn the full extent of how challenging the last few years have been for Harry and Meghan.

“The issues raised, particularly that of race, are concerning. While some recollections may vary, they are taken very seriously and will be addressed by the family privately.

“Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved family members.” [59]

RELATIONSHIP WITH THE QUEENThat’s clear talk and as Meghan Markle remarked in the famous Oprah Winfreyinterview about the Queen:”So, there’s the family, and then there’s the people that are running the institution. Those are two separate things. And it’s important to be able to compartmentalise that, because the Queen, for example, has always been wonderful to me. I mean, we had one of our first joint engagements together. She asked me to join her, and I . . . 

Oprah: Was this on the train?

Meghan: Yeah, on the train.”

AND

”Right. Just moments of . . . and it made me think of my grand-mother, where she’s always been warm and inviting and . . . and really welcoming.

Oprah: So, OK, so she made you feel welcomed?

Meghan: Yes.” [60]

Prince Harry also commented:

” I’ve spoken more to my grandmother in the last year than I have done for many, many years.

ALSO

”My grandmother and I have a really good relationship . . .And an understanding. And I have a deep respect for her. She’s my Colonel-In-Chief, right? She always will be. ” [61]

[HAHAHA, THE MILITARY WAY……]

WHAT’S FURTHER ON THE TABLE

DEPRESSION OF MEGHAN MARKLE

As I said before, I don’t comment on all the topics of that famous

Oprah Winfrey Interview

I leave the Meghan/Katie thing [62] for what it is, that Meghan didn’t do research on the Royal Family [63] etcetera.

Also I don’t comment on Prince Harry’s relationship between his father 

and brother [64], because fathers and sons often have their issues, like brothers.

After all, fathers and sons are fathers and sons and brothers will 

be brothers and  in most cases, everything will be allright and they”

ll end as one big, happy fami!y!

And I do believe, that a Royal Life can be a golden harnass [as Prince Harry commented, that his father and brother are ”trapped” [64], but that’s the price you pay for your privilege, isn’t it?

As Prince Harry said himself ”It’s part of the job” [65]

Also Prince Harry’s remarks, that he was ”cut out financially” [66],

didn’t impress me.

When you are the grandson of the Queen, one of the richest women in

the world [67] and you have been raised with all kinds of privileges

and financial advantages, than ”cut out financially” means a totally

different story than when it happens to the common man.

Besides, the first task of any man and father, royalty or not, is

to provide for his family on his own force.

So that’s for the royal privileges

But of course that all changes , when you are twelve [two weeks after his mother’s death, Prince Harry became thirteen years old] and fifteen years old

when you loses your mother far too early by a car crashincident, pushed

by the tabloids and you have to walk behind her coffin for the eyes

of the whole world to see [68]

I felt really sorry for Prince Harry and his brother Prince William at that moment.

Too young, far too young to lose one;s mother [although it is never the right time]

That also changes when you feel that depressed, like Meghan Markle stated in the Oprah  interview,  that you want to take your own life…..[69]

SNAKE PIERS MORGAN!

Even about that statement boulevard hater Piers Morgan made a nasty remark, so he had to leave Good Morning Britain after more than 40.000 complaints!  [70]

GOOD RIDDANCE TOO!

So therefore I wanted to comment that depression of Meghan Markle,

nearly ruining her life and that of her family.

And if it’s really true, that Meghan knocked on the door of

”the Firm” and they didn’t open it, when she was in need [refused to give 

the necessary help] [71], that that’s more than scandalous.

ASTRID’S WRITING ABOUT THE OPRAH INTERVIEW, FROM

MARCH UNTIL AUGUST

Since I began to comment the famous Oprah Interview [in March] until now [August], much has happened in the British Royal Family, so including in the lives of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle.

Prince Harry’s grandfather, Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, died [72]

Prince Harry and his brother Prince William unveil a statue in the honour of their mother,  Princess Diana [73] and of course the happy arrival of

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s daughter, Lady Lilibeth, the eleventh grandchild of Queen Elizabeth and named after her greatgrandmother Queen Elizabeth [Lilibet was the name the Queen’s family called her] and her grandmother Princess Diana  [74]

[They listened to me:

I always said, that when Harry and Meghan became parents of a daughter,

they had to name her after her greatgrandmother the Queen/HAHAHA]

Also Prince Harry revealed some issues he had with his father concerning

the way he was raised [75], but I consider that as personal and I am sure

they will work that out.

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have their own life now, far from any

racist smearcampaign [76] and I wish them, with their children, a happy life!

FINAL

So as I promised at 10 march this anno Domini [77], I would comment on

the famous Oprah Winfrey interview with Prince Harry and Meghan Markle.

Now I did.

And you readers probably will ask yourself:

Why she is bothering with an interview from march, we living in august?

Normally indeed I would not bother, but now it is important, because racism is there, that greeneyed monster [78] that can ruin lives.

But happily not the life of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, who choose the

right way to leave this mess behind them.

But this is racism in the highest circles, the British Royal Family and you

would think, that somebody who is that priviliged as the Duchess of Sussex, should not be subject of it.

Yet it happened, but luckily she has a true husband, Prince Harry, who supports her no matter what, as he has proved. [79]

That made it worth to write about this, although it was months ago, that

the interview was taken.

As I wrote in this article, I could not track down, who is the racist cuckoo

in the British Royal Family, but that matters not.

Fact is, that racism is appartently also the issue in those circles.

And alas, racism is with us for a long time yet, perhaps until

we are attacked by aliens and together we are defending our Mother Earth

[HAHAHA]

But fighting against racism and prejudice, wherever you find it, was worth

to write this article.

And the fact that I completed this article five months after the famous Oprah Winfrey interview [80], adds the worth of fighting for equality.

It was nice to write this!

Astrid Essed

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”Meghan: And, look, I was really ashamed to say it at the time and ashamed to have to admit it to Harry, especially, because I know how much loss he’s suffered. But I knew that if I didn’t say it, that I would do it. And I . . . I just didn’t . . . I just didn’t want to be alive any more. And that was a very clear and real and frightening constant thought. And I remember — I remember how he just cradled me. And I was — I went to the institution, and I said that I needed to go somewhere to get help. I said that, ‘I’ve never felt this way before, and I need to go somewhere’. And I was told that I couldn’t, that it wouldn’t be good for the institution. And I called . . . ”

Oprah: So the institution is never a person. Or is it a series of people?

Meghan: No, it’s a person.

Oprah: It’s a person.

Meghan: It’s several people. But I went to one of the most senior people just to . . . to get help. And that — you know, I share this, because there’s so many people who are afraid to voice that they need help. And I know, personally, how hard it is to not just voice it, but when you voice it, to be told no.

Oprah: Whoo.

Meghan: And so, I went to human resources, and I said, ‘I just really — I need help’. Because in my old job, there was a union, and they would protect me. And I remember this conversation like it was yesterday, because they said, ‘My heart goes out to you, because I see how bad it is, but there’s nothing we can do to protect you because you’re not a paid employee of the institution’.

Oprah: Mmm.

Meghan: This wasn’t a choice. This was emails and begging for help, saying very specifically, ‘I am concerned for my mental welfare’. And people going, ‘Oh, yes, yes, it’s disproportionately terrible what we see out there to anyone else’. But nothing was ever done, so we had to find a solution.

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THE SUN

MEGHAN MARKLE OPRAH INTERVIEW: READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPT OF DUCHESS AND PRINCE HARRY’S BOMBSHELL CONFESSIONS

8 MARCH 2021
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14277841/meghan-markle-oprah-interview-full-transcript/

SEE ALSO

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THE GUARDIAN

DUKE OF EDINBURGH, PRINCE PHILIP, DIES AGED 99

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/apr/09/prince-philip-duke-of-edinburgh-dies

Buckingham Palace has announced the death of the Queen’s husband of 73 years

The Duke of Edinburgh, the Queen’s “strength and stay” for 73 years, has died aged 99.

A statement from Buckingham Palace on Friday said: “It is with deep sorrow that Her Majesty The Queen announces the death of her beloved husband, His Royal Highness The Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh. His Royal Highness passed away peacefully this morning at Windsor Castle. Further announcements will made in due course. The Royal Family join with people around the world in mourning his loss.”

He was the longest serving consort in British history, and was only months away from his 100th birthday in June.

Philip had returned to Windsor Castle on 16 March to be reunited with the Queen after spending a month in hospital – his longest stay. He initially received care for an infection but then under went heart surgery for a pre-existing condition.

An official notice of his death was posted on the railings of Buckingham Palace, as is traditional, but was being removed shortly afterwards to avoid crowds gathering.

The coronavirus pandemic will have a major impact on the carefully laid plans for the duke’s funeral. With restrictions still in place amid the Covid-19 outbreak, the public elements of the final farewell will not be able to take place in their original form.

Philip’s health had been slowly deteriorating for some time. He announced he was stepping down from royal engagements in May 2017, joking that he could no longer stand up. He made a final official public appearance later that year during a Royal Marines parade on the forecourt of Buckingham Palace.

Since then, he has rarely been seen in public, spending most of his time on the Queen’s Sandringham estate in Norfolk, though moving to be with her at Windsor Castle during the lockdown periods throughout the Covid-19 pandemic and where the couple quietly celebrated their 73rd wedding anniversary in November 2020.

He celebrated his 99th birthday in lockdown at Windsor Castle. He spent much of the Covid-19 crisis staying with the Queen at Windsor in HMS Bubble – the nickname given to the royal couple’s reduced household of devoted staff during lockdown.

The duke spent four nights at King Edward VII hospital in London before Christmas 2019 for observation and treatment in relation to a “pre-existing condition”.

Despite having hip surgery in April 2018, he attended the wedding of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle a month later and was seen sitting beside the Queen at a polo match at Windsor Great Park in June. He and the Queen missed Prince Louis of Cambridge’s christening in July 2018, but he was seen attending Crathie Kirk near Balmoral in August, and driving his Land Rover in the surrounding Scottish countryside in September.

Despite living quietly out of the public eye, he made headlines when involved in a car crash in January 2019. Two women needed hospital treatment after he was apparently dazzled by the low sun as he pulled out of a driveway on the Sandringham estate. A nine-month-old baby boy in the other vehicle was unhurt. The Crown Prosecution Service decided it was not in the public interest to prosecute the duke after he later voluntarily surrendered his driving licence.

Born on the island of Corfu, Prince Philip, who once described himself as “a discredited Balkan prince of no particular merit or distinction”, played a key role in the development of the modern monarchy in Britain.

Though never officially given the title of prince consort, he lived a life of relentless royal duty, relinquishing his promising naval career, which some believed could have seen him rise to become First Sea Lord, for a role requiring him to walk several feet behind his wife.

Having made this choice, he immersed himself wholeheartedly in national life, carving out a unique public role. He was the most energetic member of the royal family with, for many decades, the busiest engagements diary.

Even when well-advanced in years, he could be seen on walkabouts hoisting small children over security barriers to enable them to present their posies to his wife.

Often he received little public recognition for his endeavours. In part this was due to his uncomfortable relationship with the press, whom he labelled “bloody reptiles” and whose coverage often focused on his gaffes. He once told the former Conservative MP and biographer Gyles Brandreth: “I have become a caricature. There we are. I’ve just got to accept it.”

The duke could be blunt and outspoken to the point of offensiveness. He claimed to have coined the word “dontopedalogy”: a talent for putting one’s foot in one’s mouth. Prone to bad-tempered outbursts, he never suffered fools gladly. Equally, he could be charming, engaging and witty – and displayed such genuine curiosity on his official visits that his hosts were flattered.

While constitutionally excluded from major areas of the Queen’s professional life – he held no constitutional role other than as a privy counsellor and saw no state papers – he set about modernising a monarchy he feared could end up as a museum piece.

It was at his instigation that the practice of presenting debutantes at court was abolished in 1958. He initiated informal palace lunches to which guests from a variety of backgrounds were invited. Garden parties were broadened.

He chaired the Way Ahead Group – composed of leading royal family members and their advisers – to analyse and avert criticism of the institution.

The Queen, who deferred to him in private, would say: “What does Philip think?” on any major matter concerning the royal household. Big decisions, including her finally agreeing to pay tax on her private income, the abolition of the royal yacht Britannia, and her letter to Charles and Diana suggesting an early divorce, were taken after consultation with the duke, according to insiders.

He set out his views on the monarchy on several occasions, recognising it could not be all things to all people and therefore would always find itself in a position of compromise – or risk being kicked from both sides. But, he argued: “People still respond more easily to symbolism than to reason.” People instinctively understood the idea of a representative rather than a governing leader, and it was important for national identity, he maintained.Advertisement

He had a keen interest in religion and conservation, despite dispatching a 2.5-metre (8ft) tiger with a single shot on an official visit to India in 1961, the same year he became president of the World Wildlife Fund UK.

Industry, science and nature were other passions. One of his most famous speeches was in 1961 when he told leading industrialists: “Gentlemen, I think it is time we pulled our fingers out.” And he loved gadgets.

From the outset he took a keen interest in young people through the Duke of Edinburgh award, which he launched in 1956, inspired by his school days, and organisations such as the National Playing Fields Association and the Outward Bound Trust.

With his youthful good looks and sporting prowess, Philip was a pin-up. He played polo until, in 1971, injury forced him to retire, after which he took up four-in-hand carriage driving – a coach with four horses – which he continued to compete in at international level well into his 80s.

He was a crack shot, a qualified pilot and an accomplished sailor. As the searchlight control officer on the battleship HMS Valiant, he was mentioned in dispatches in 1941 for his role in the Battle of Matapan against the Italian fleet. His wartime service also saw him present at the Japanese surrender in Tokyo Bay in 1945.

His love of the outdoors and physical pursuit was nurtured in childhood at Gordonstoun, the Morayshire school founded by Kurt Hahn, which encouraged self-reliance in pupils. Hahn had a profound influence on the young prince, who rarely saw his parents as a child.

Born at the family home of Mon Repos, apparently on the kitchen table, on Corfu on 10 June 1921, Philip was the youngest child and only son of Prince Andrew of Greece, an officer in the Greek army, and Princess Alice of Battenberg. The family fled when his father was charged with high treason in the aftermath of the heavy defeat of the Greeks by the Turks. They were evacuated in a British warship, with one-year-old Philip being carried in a makeshift cot fashioned from an orange box.

He had an unsettled and peripatetic childhood. His parents separated; his father settling in Monte Carlo where he amassed significant gambling debts, and his mother, who was deaf, going on to found an order of nuns before becoming depressed and being admitted to an asylum. He later said of his family’s break-up: “I just had to get on with it. You do. One does.”

Distantly related to the Queen – they were third cousins – their paths crossed several times before he became a serious suitor in 1946, though she was said to have fallen in love with him when she was 13.

A highly ambitious and complex man, he faced many obstacles in the early days of marriage at the palace. With no money and no title, the establishment thought him a little “below the salt”. George VI was dismayed his daughter wanted to marry the first man she had met and thought her too young. Queen Elizabeth, later the Queen Mother, and never knowingly subtle, mischievously referred to him as “the Hun”, a reference to his mixed Danish, Russian and German heritage. Her brother, David Bowes-Lyon, dismissed him as “a German”.

Courtiers saw him as an outsider – with barely a suit to his name – and a little too Teutonic.

But he succeeded in overcoming prejudice and set about creating a role in which he would become the linchpin of palace life. Describing her reliance on him, the Queen said in a speech to celebrate their golden wedding in 1997: “He is someone who doesn’t take easily to compliments. But he has, quite simply, been my strength and stay all these years, and I, and his whole family, and this and many other countries, owe him a debt greater than he would ever claim, or we shall ever know.”

The bishop of London, Richard Chartres, once told the unauthorised biographer Graham Turner: “If one of the standard English aristocrats had married the Queen it would have bored everyone out of their minds.”

The Duke of Edinburgh was many things, but one thing he was not was boring.

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WIKIPEDIA

PRINCE PHILIP, DUKE OF EDINBURGH

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh

WIKIPEDIA

DEATH AND FUNERAL OF PRINCE PHILIP, DUKE OF EDINBURGH

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_and_funeral_of_Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh

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BBC

WILLIAM AND HARRY UNITE TO UNVEIL DIANA STATUE AT

KENSINGTON PALACE

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57684597

The Dukes of Cambridge and Sussex have united to unveil a statue of Diana, Princess of Wales, saying “every day we wish she were still with us”.

William and Harry came together for a ceremony in Kensington Palace’s redesigned Sunken Garden, on what would have been their mother’s 60th birthday.

It was their first appearance together since the Duke of Edinburgh’s funeral in April.

“We remember her love, strength and character,” they said.

“Qualities that made her a force for good around the world, changing countless lives for the better.”

They said they hoped the statue would “be seen forever as a symbol of her life and her legacy” and thanked “all those around the world who keep our mother’s memory alive”.

The pair were seen laughing and talking animatedly with guests, who applauded as they pulled off a green cloth covering the statue.

They remarked on changes to the Sunken Garden, which Kensington Palace said had been “one of the princess’s favourite locations” when she lived there.

Prince Harry has hinted at difficulties between him and Prince William since stepping back from royal duties last year.

He told Oprah Winfrey in March that the two were on “different paths”.

Then, in May, he spoke of his family’s unwillingness to talk about his mother’s death, and how he was expected to “suffer” in silence.

He said he had been willing to drink and take drugs to cope with the pain of losing her.

Harry, who lives in the US with his wife, the Duchess of Sussex, and their two children, arrived in the UK last week in order to complete his quarantine ahead of Thursday’s event.

ANALYSIS BY DANIELA RELPH

ROYAL CORRESPONDENT

It was a low-key event – quiet and intimate.

There were just a handful of guests at the unveiling of the statue – Prince William, Prince Harry, Diana’s two sisters, her brother and members of the statue committee.

William and Harry walked out together into the Sunken Garden. Harry, in particular, spent time with his two aunts and uncle in animated conversation.

Neither of them spoke publicly at the event. There were no speeches or fanfare.

It was professional and friendly and gave no obvious sense of the tensions behind the scenes. There was even laughter between the brothers as they prepared to unveil the bronze statue.

They don’t want the day to be about their own broken relationship. They want it to be about their mother and her legacy.

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Diana’s siblings were among those at the ceremony at Kensington Palace, Diana’s former home in London.

The dukes were seen warmly greeting their aunts, Lady Sarah McCorquodale and Lady Jane Fellowes, and their uncle, Earl Spencer.

What the critics say

Ruth Millington, art historian and critic: Rank-Broadley was given a very difficult task – to honour a woman who still means so much to so many.

She was a public figure, a campaigner and an activist, as well as what she considered her most important role: a mother.

Within art history, there are far too many overly romanticised representations of mothers. But there is nothing overly sentimental about this statue. While opening her arms symbolically to the three children, Diana clasps the girl’s hand with strength.

While using the traditional medium of bronze, Rank-Broadley has broken the mould of royal monuments. He has focused on rendering the folds of fabric to indicate movement: Diana looks like she might step down from the plinth and keep walking. It’s a monument which invites engagement and embodies her openness.

With this poignant memorial, the artist has created a characterful depiction of Diana, which does her justice.

Rank-Broadley has managed to capture the many sides of Diana with this complex statue: she’s determined and graceful, brooding and warm, commanding and compassionate.

Far from elevating her to a high pedestal, he has represented her – as she will always be remembered – as a princess of the people.

Elizabeth Fullerton, art critic: It’s an uncontroversial, accessible representation of a female icon.

Is it good art? Well that depends on your taste.

It’s pretty conservative, made in a naturalistic style and doesn’t move the conversation forward in terms of innovation in contemporary art – but then again, that clearly wasn’t the aim. This isn’t the Fourth Plinth after all.

Princess Diana was killed in a car crash in August 1997, when William and Harry were aged just 15 and 12.

When they commissioned the statue of their mother in 2017, they said they hoped it would help visitors to the palace “reflect on her life and her legacy”.

More than 4,000 flowers have been planted for the Sunken Garden’s redesign, which has taken 1,000 hours to complete.

The garden – which sits within London’s Kensington Gardens, next to Hyde Park – will be open to the public to visit for free from Friday, in line with Kensington Palace’s opening hours.

END OF THE ARTICLE

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WIKIPEDIA

LILIBET MOUNTBATTEN-WINDSOR

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilibet_Mountbatten-Windsor

CNN

MEGHAN AND HARRY WELCOME BABY GIRL, LILIBET DIANA

7 JUNE 2021

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/06/europe/meghan-harry-baby-girl-news-intl-scli/index.html

(CNN)Meghan, Duchess of Sussex has given birth to a daughter, the second child for her and Prince Harry, the couple announced in a statement on Sunday.”It is with great joy that Prince Harry and Meghan, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, welcome their daughter, Lilibet ‘Lili’ Diana Mountbatten-Windsor, to the world,” the statement said.”Lili was born on Friday, June 4 at 11:40 a.m. in the trusted care of the doctors and staff at Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital,” it said, adding that the new arrival weighed in at 7 pounds, 11 ounces (3.49 kilos) and that “both mother and child are healthy and well, and settling in at home.””Lili is named after her great-grandmother, Her Majesty The Queen, whose family nickname is Lilibet. Her middle name, Diana, was chosen to honor her beloved late grandmother, The Princess of Wales,” the statement added.Baby Lili is a sister for the couple’s 2-year-old son, Archie Harrison.In a message on their Archewell foundation website, Meghan and Harry said they had been “blessed” by their daughter’s arrival.”She is more than we could have ever imagined, and we remain grateful for the love and prayers we’ve felt from across the globe. Thank you for your continued kindness and support during this very special time for our family.”Buckingham Palace released a statement Sunday on the baby girl’s birth.”The Queen, The Prince of Wales and The Duchess of Cornwall, and The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have been informed and are delighted with the news of the birth of a daughter for The Duke and Duchess of Sussex,” it read.The Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall along with the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge tweeted their congratulations.The US Embassy in London also congratulated the Sussexes, noting the news comes just in time for Father’s Day.

‘Feeling of joy’

Harry and Meghan revealed they were expecting a girl during their tell-all interview with Oprah Winfrey, broadcast in March.The newborn is the Queen’s 11th great-grandchild. She is eighth in line to the throne behind her grandfather Charles, uncle William, his three children (George, Charlotte and Louis), her father Harry, and big brother Archie.Her birth in the United States makes her the most senior royal in the line of succession to have been born overseas.It also makes her a dual US-UK citizen, meaning that the youngest Sussex could potentially go on to become US President when she grows up — while also being in line to the British throne.Meghan and Harry kept the pregnancy as private as possible, speaking just a handful of times about their daughter’s impending arrival.One of those occasions was for a pre-recorded message from Meghan for the recent Vax Live concert in May, which she and Harry co-chaired.”My husband and I are thrilled to soon be welcoming a daughter — it’s a feeling of joy we share with millions of other families around the world,” the Duchess told the audience at the event, intended to promote Covid-19 vaccine equity and gender equality.”When we think of her, we think of all the young women and girls around the globe who must be given the ability and support to lead us forward,” she said. “Their future leadership depends on the decisions we make, and the actions we take now to set them up, and set all of us up, for a successful, equitable, and compassionate tomorrow.”

Pregnancy announcement

The royal couple announced back in February they were expecting an addition to their family, sharing a black-and-white snap of them gazing at each other, while Meghan cradled her baby bump.The photo was shot by Misan Harriman, a Nigerian-born British photographer and friend of the couple, who took the picture remotely from his London residence.The timing of their Valentine’s Day announcement likely held special significance for the couple, coming almost exactly 37 years to the day after Prince Charles and Princess Diana revealed that they were expecting their second child: Prince Harry.Meghan disclosed in an opinion piece for The New York Times that she suffered a miscarriage last summer.Their newborn daughter is entitled to be a Lady from birth, but will likely not use the title.When Archie Harrison was born in 2019, the Duke and Duchess opted to forgo titles and indicated they would not use his father’s second peerage title, the Earl of Dumbarton.Neither of the Sussex children is currently eligible to use HRH titles, following the rules set out by George V in the 1917 Letters Patent. However, this will change when their grandfather Charles ascends to the throne.As for the question of whether Archie and his baby sister will be joined by more siblings in the future, that doesn’t seem to be on the cards right now.Harry revealed that he and his wife are likely to keep their brood limited to “two, maximum” while discussing the Earth’s dwindling resources with activist and chimpanzee expert Jane Goodall for a special edition of British Vogue last July.Harry and Meghan were married in a lavish wedding at St. George’s Chapel in Windsor, England, three years ago.They stepped back from their roles as senior working royals last year, relinquishing their HRH titles, and now live in Santa Barbara, California.

The private neighborhood

Harry and Meghan settled into their Santa Barbara home last July, according to August reports from People magazine.”They have settled into the quiet privacy of their community since their arrival and hope that this will be respected for their neighbors, as well as for them as a family,” a representative for the family told the magazine in August 2020.Richard Mineards, a columnist for Montecito Journal who covered the royals for 45 years, told CNN on Sunday that the area where they live is very “grand … with very large estates” and it does not have issues with paparazzi.”I mean, Oprah Winfrey, Ellen DeGeneres, Oscar winner Jeff Bridges, Oscar winner Kevin Costner (and) George Lucas live just down the road,” Mineards said. “We are a celebrity community.”The community also has “very wealthy people” such as tech billionaires, he said. “You name it, we have it,” he said.
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OFFICIAL STATEMENT

“It is with great joy that Prince Harry and Meghan, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, welcome their daughter, Lilibet “Lili” Diana Mountbatten-Windsor, to the world. Lili was born on Friday, June 4 at 11:40 a.m. in the trusted care of the doctors and staff at Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital in Santa Barbara, CA.

She weighed 7 lbs 11 oz. Both mother and child are healthy and well, and settling in at home.

Lili is named after her great-grandmother, Her Majesty The Queen, whose family nickname is Lilibet. Her middle name, Diana, was chosen to honor her beloved late grandmother, The Princess of Wales.

This is the second child for the couple, who also have a two-year-old son named Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor. The Duke and Duchess thank you for your warm wishes and prayers as they enjoy this special time as a family.”

A MESSAGE OF THANKS FROM THE DUKE AND DUCHESS OF SUSSEX

“On June 4th, we were blessed with the arrival of our daughter, Lili. She is more than we could have ever imagined, and we remain grateful for the love and prayers we’ve felt from across the globe. Thank you for your continued kindness and support during this very special time for our family.”

ARCHEWELL

CONGRATULATIONS TO THE DUKE AND DUCHESS OF

SUSSEX

https://archewell.com/news/congratulations-to-the-duke-and-duchess-of-sussex/

A ROYAL DAUGHTER FOR THE DUKE AND DUCHESS OF

SUSSEX!/LADY LILIBET DIANA, WELCOME TO THE WORLD!

ASTRID ESSED

16 JUNE 2021

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THE GUARDIAN

PRINCE HARRY APPEARS TO CRITICISE WAY HE WAS RAISED BY HIS FATHER

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/13/prince-harry-royal-family-like-being-in-the-truman-show

Duke of Sussex also speaks of ‘genetic pain and suffering’ in royal family in new interview in US

The Duke of Sussex has appeared to criticise the way he was raised by Prince Charles, discussing the “genetic pain and suffering” in the royal family and stressing that he wanted to “break the cycle” for his children.

In a wide-ranging 90-minute interview, Prince Harry, who is expecting a daughter with Meghan and is already father to Archie, two, likened life in the royal family to a mix between being in The Truman Show and being in a zoo.

Speaking to the American actor Dax Shepard for his Armchair Expert podcast, Harry was promoting his new Apple TV+ series about mental health, The Me You Can’t See, with Oprah Winfrey, which launches next week.

Discussing his childhood, Harry said: “There is no blame. I don’t think we should be pointing the finger or blaming anybody, but certainly when it comes to parenting, if I’ve experienced some form of pain or suffering because of the pain or suffering that perhaps my father or my parents had suffered, I’m going to make sure I break that cycle so that I don’t pass it on, basically.

“It’s a lot of genetic pain and suffering that gets passed on anyway so we as parents should be doing the most we can to try and say: ‘You know what, that happened to me, I’m going to make sure that doesn’t happen to you.’”

He said that in his 20s, he realised he did not want the royal “job”, having seen what it did to his mother, Princess Diana.

He said he had been forced to “grin and bear it”, but added: “I’ve seen behind the curtain, I’ve seen the business model, I know how this operation runs and how it works. I don’t want to be part of this.

“It’s a mix of being in The Truman Show and being in the zoo.”

The Truman Show is a 1998 satirical film starring Jim Carrey, where the main character becomes aware he is secretly the star of international hit reality TV show.

Harry also told how he started therapy after a conversation with his wife, Meghan, who “saw it straight away”.Advertisement

“She could tell that I was hurting and that some of the stuff that was out of my control would make me really angry, it would make my blood boil.”

He said therapy had helped him “pluck his head out of the sand” and made him realise he needed to use his privileged position to help others.

Of Prince Charles, he said: “Suddenly I started to piece it together and go ‘OK, so this is where he went to school, this is what happened, I know this about his life, I also know that is connected to his parents so that means he’s treated me the way he was treated, so how can I change that for my own kids?’

“And well here I am, I moved my whole family to the US, that wasn’t the plan but sometimes you’ve got make decisions and put your family first and put your mental health first.”

He added that Meghan, now knowing the life of a royal, would say: “You don’t need to be a princess, you can create the life that will be better than any princess.”

Harry also revealed that he met up with his future wife in a London supermarket in the early days of their relationship and the couple pretended not to know each other.

The duke said: “It was nice with a baseball cap on looking down at the floor, walking along the street and trying to stay incognito.”

He described the freedom he felt living in Los Angeles: “I can actually lift my head and I feel different, my shoulders have dropped, so have hers, you can walk around feeling a little bit more free, I can take Archie on the back of my bicycle, I would never have had the chance to do that.”

As the podcast was released, it emerged that Madame Tussauds had moved waxwork models of Harry and Meghan away from other members of the House of Windsor and placed them in the attraction’s Hollywood zone with waxworks of other celebrities.

  • This article was amended on 15 May 2021 to remove an audio clip which had been included in an earlier version.

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SMEARCAMPAIGN AGAINST MEGHAN MARKLE WITH RACIST

UNDERTONES/SOME DIRTY EXAMPLES

ASTRID ESSED

17 JANUARY 2020

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”Yet new developments took place, resulting in the bombshell Oprah Winfreyinterview, which I share with you here, in full transcript!I will comment on it soon enough [look for my website]But firstly the interview!”
OPRAH WINFREY MEETS PRINCE HARRY AND HIS WIFE MEGHANMARKLE/FULL TEXT OF THE INTERVIEWASTRID ESSED10 MARCH 2021
https://www.astridessed.nl/oprah-winfrey-meets-prince-harry-and-his-wife-meghan-markle-full-text-of-the-interview/

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RACISM IS A GREEN EYED MONSTERDERIVED FROM THE WORDS JAGO SPOKETO OTHELLO IN ACT 3, SCENE 3 FROMSHAKESPEARE’S PLAY ”OTHELLO”

  ””IAGO

O, beware, my lord, of jealousy;
It is the green-eyed monster which doth mock
The meat it feeds on; that cuckold lives in bliss
Who, certain of his fate, loves not his wronger;
But, O, what damned minutes tells he o’er
Who dotes, yet doubts, suspects, yet strongly loves!”

SHAKESPEAREOTHELLOACT III, SCENE III
http://shakespeare.mit.edu/othello/full.html

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PRINCE HARRY AND MEGHAN MARKLE SUE TABLOID/PRINCEHARRY DEFENDING HIS WIFE/THE ONLY HONOURABLE THING TO DOASTRID ESSED2 OCTOBER 2019
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THE SUN

MEGHAN MARKLE OPRAH INTERVIEW: READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPT OF DUCHESS AND PRINCE HARRY’S BOMBSHELL CONFESSIONS

8 MARCH 2021
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14277841/meghan-markle-oprah-interview-full-transcript/

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THE SUNMEGHAN MARKLE OPRAH INTERVIEW: READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPTOF DUCHESS AND PRINCE HARRY’S BOMBSHELL CONFESSIONS8 MARCH 2021
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14277841/meghan-markle-oprah-interview-full-transcript/

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BBCMEGHAN AND HARRY INTERVIEW:RACISM CLAIMS, DUKE ”LED DOWN” BY DAD, AND DUCHESS ON KATE9 MARCH

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56316659

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BBCMEGHAN AND HARRY INTERVIEW:RACISM CLAIMS, DUKE ”LED DOWN” BY DAD, AND DUCHESS ON KATE9 MARCH

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56316659

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”Oprah: Please explain how you, Prince Harry, raised in a palace and a life of privilege — literally, a Prince . . . how you were trapped.

Harry: Trapped within the system, like the rest of my family are. My father and my brother, they are trapped. They don’t get to leave. And I have huge compassion for that.”

THE SUNMEGHAN MARKLE OPRAH INTERVIEW: READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPTOF DUCHESS AND PRINCE HARRY’S BOMBSHELL CONFESSIONS8 MARCH 2021
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14277841/meghan-markle-oprah-interview-full-transcript/

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”Oprah: Well, OK, so the impression of the world — maybe it’s a false impression — is that, for all these years before Meghan, you were living your life as a royal, Prince Harry . . . the beloved Prince Harry and that you were enjoying that life. We didn’t get the impression that you were feeling trapped in that life.

Harry: Enjoying the life because there were photographs of me smiling while I was shaking hands and meeting people? Like, I’m sure you guys have covered some of that. That’s . . . that’s a part of the job. That’s a part of the role. That’s what’s expected. No matter who you are in the family, no matter what’s going on in your personal life, no matter what’s just happened, if the bikes roll up and the car rolls up, you’ve got to get dressed, you got to get in there. You wipe your tears away, shake off whatever you’re thinking about and you got to be on your A-game.”
THE SUNMEGHAN MARKLE OPRAH INTERVIEW: READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPTOF DUCHESS AND PRINCE HARRY’S BOMBSHELL CONFESSIONS8 MARCH 2021
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14277841/meghan-markle-oprah-interview-full-transcript/

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”Harry: Yeah, it exists. But, also, the Netflix and the Spotify, they’re all . . . that was never part of the plan.

Meghan: Yeah.

Oprah: Because you didn’t have a plan?

Meghan: We didn’t have a plan.

Harry: We didn’t have a plan. That was suggested by somebody else by the point of where my family literally cut me off financially, and I had to afford . . . afford security for us.

Oprah: Wait. Hold . . . hold up. Wait a minute. Your family cut you off?

Harry: Yeah, in the first half, the first quarter of 2020. But I’ve got what my mum left me, and, without that, we would not have been able to do this.

Oprah: OK.”

THE SUNMEGHAN MARKLE OPRAH INTERVIEW: READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPTOF DUCHESS AND PRINCE HARRY’S BOMBSHELL CONFESSIONS8 MARCH 2021
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14277841/meghan-markle-oprah-interview-full-transcript/

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Harry: Yeah, in the first half, the first quarter of 2020. But I’ve got what my mum left me, and, without that, we would not have been able to do this.

THE SUNMEGHAN MARKLE OPRAH INTERVIEW: READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPTOF DUCHESS AND PRINCE HARRY’S BOMBSHELL CONFESSIONS8 MARCH 2021
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14277841/meghan-markle-oprah-interview-full-transcript/

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” Thanks to what he inherited from Diana—which Forbes estimated to be $10 million—Harry and his family were able to settle down in California, he told Oprah on Sunday, after his family “literally cut [him] off financially.”
FORBES.COMINSIDE ”THE FIRM” HOW THE ROYAL FAMILY’S $28 BILLION MONEY MACHINE REALLY WORKS10 MARCH 2021
https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielshapiro/2021/03/10/inside-the-firm-how-the-royal-familys-28-billion-money-machine-really-works/?sh=339cd97c2bcc
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”Being a member of The Firm also comes with high expectations for keeping the moneymaking machine running for generations to come. The crown holds, but cannot sell, nearly $28 billion in assets through the Crown Estate ($19.5 billion), Buckingham Palace (est. $4.9 billion), the Duchy of Cornwall ($1.3 billion), the Duchy of Lancaster ($748 million), Kensington Palace (est. $630 million) and the Crown Estate Scotland ($592 million). Forbes also estimates that Queen Elizabeth has another $500 million in personal assets.”

FORBES.COMINSIDE ”THE FIRM” HOW THE ROYAL FAMILY’S $28 BILLION MONEY MACHINE REALLY WORKS10 MARCH 2021
https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielshapiro/2021/03/10/inside-the-firm-how-the-royal-familys-28-billion-money-machine-really-works/?sh=339cd97c2bcc

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s explosive interview with the Queen of Media has the Windsors tied in knots. Here’s how it affects their 1,000-year-old business.

After Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s devastating interview with Oprah Winfrey on March 7, “The Firm” is on shaky ground. The senior members of the House of Windsor should have seen the tectonic consequences coming. “I don’t know how they could expect that after all of this time,” Markle told Winfrey, “we would still just be silent if there is an active role that The Firm is playing in perpetuating falsehoods about us.”

The menacing moniker dates back more than 80 years to the period following the most divisive episode in modern royal history—the 1936 abdication of Edward VIII. Alternatively attributed to Queen Elizabeth II’s father, King George VI, who succeeded his older brother, and her husband, Prince Philip, the darkly accurate nickname for the senior members of the family stuck. The Firm—also known as “Monarchy PLC”—are the public faces of a $28 billion empire that pumps hundreds of millions of pounds into the United Kingdom’s economy every year. The lavish televised weddings (the boost to the U.K. economy from Harry and Meghan’s royal wedding was an estimated $1.5 billion), buzzy tours of Commonwealth countries and public displays of pomp and circumstance generate massive interest—and profits—for a global business enterprise that spans from prime real estate in central London to remote farmlands in Scotland.

The saga of the royal family has also been a mother lode for the British media. In the Oprah interview, Markle spoke of the “invisible contract” with the tabloids, describing a relationship that is at once symbiotic, sycophantic and sinister. It’s also been great for newsstand sales and TV ratings. Three years ago, Brand Finance, a U.K.-based brand valuation firm, estimated The Firm’s contributions to the media industry at nearly $70 million. That number seems small after Harry and Meghan’s interview was broadcast in more than 60 countries. And even the prince acknowledged that they have watched the acclaimed Netflix series The Crown.

Who gets to be part of The Firm and reap the benefits has become a point of great contention over the years. Following Harry and Meghan’s departure from official duties, the number of full-time senior royals has been winnowed down to eight. Aiding Her Majesty as members of The Firm are an elite group of seven royals: Prince Charles, who is next in line for the crown, and his wife, Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall; Prince William, second in line to the throne, and Kate, the Duchess of Cambridge; Princess Anne, the Queen’s daughter; and Prince Edward, the Queen’s youngest son, and his wife, Sophie, Countess of Wessex. According to historian and royal commentator Carolyn Harris, the move to narrow the inner circle is as much about consolidating resources as it is about maintaining reputational control.

“These efforts to streamline are clearly trying to counter public opinion concerned about the Sovereign Grant going to too many people and there being too much funding for minor royals,” Harris says.

The organizational chart of The Firm is a testament to the 1,000-year-old family business, and the public perception that sustains it is vital to its success. “It is a very formalized influencer business,” explains David Haigh, chief executive of Brand Finance. Unlike a celebrity family such as the Kardashians, however, the Windsors don’t personally profit from the business itself—although they contributed an estimated $2.7 billion annually to the U.K. economy prepandemic. The impact the royal family has on the U.K. economy is mostly through tourism, but Haigh notes there are other financial benefits, such as free media coverage of Britain (which was an estimated $400 million in 2017). There are also many valuable royal warrants granted by the monarch—essentially a stamp of approval on high-end consumer products like Barbour jackets and Johnnie Walker whisky. Haigh estimates that a royal warrant can boost the holder’s revenue by as much as 10%. The economic advantages for companies and institutions in the royal family’s orbit far exceed the $550 million cost associated with the family’s massive operating expenses, according to Haigh.

Not everybody wants to be a part of the monarchy machine, however. The enormous pressures that come with the job have driven members out of the family, including, of course, Princess Diana and now Harry and Meghan. It has not always ended well for those who leave—or are pushed out—but armed with powerful celebrity friends in America and several Hollywood deals, Harry and Meghan may find themselves far better off financially (and emotionally) than those, in the words of Prince Harry, who remain “trapped.”

Elizabeth Corp.

Since she inherited the throne from her father in 1952, Queen Elizabeth has chaired The Firm—even if she doesn’t have the final say over how the business is managed. Prince Philip, the 99-year-old patriarch of the Windsor family, was once a powerful member of The Firm, but he has formally stepped back from his official duties. In addition to losing Prince Harry, the Firm ousted another senior member in the past year, after Prince Andrew’s close relationship to late pedophile financier Jeffrey Epstein was exposed—and he had a disastrous television interview of his own in 2019.

Beyond the extended family, the House of Windsor has thousands of employees around the world. Buckingham Palace alone employs some 1,200 people—even if they aren’t always paid a Queen’s ransom to work there. An entry-level IT specialist can make upwards of $40,000 a year, as well as benefits, at Buckingham Palace, according to a recent job listing on an official palace portal. The Crown Estate, the institution that oversees the assets of the monarchy, also employs an additional 450 people, including a board of directors that make the financial decisions for the monarchy.

Being a member of The Firm also comes with high expectations for keeping the moneymaking machine running for generations to come. The crown holds, but cannot sell, nearly $28 billion in assets through the Crown Estate ($19.5 billion), Buckingham Palace (est. $4.9 billion), the Duchy of Cornwall ($1.3 billion), the Duchy of Lancaster ($748 million), Kensington Palace (est. $630 million) and the Crown Estate Scotland ($592 million). Forbes also estimates that Queen Elizabeth has another $500 million in personal assets.

In the fiscal year ending March 31, 2020, the Crown Estate pulled in more than $700 million, with more than $475 million in profits. The royal family receives 25% of the Crown Estate income, which is also known as the Sovereign Grant, and the remaining 75% goes to the British Treasury. The latest Sovereign Grant received by the royals was roughly $120 million, which the family uses solely for official expenses, which include payroll, security, travel, housekeeping, maintenance costs and IT expenses. The private expenses of the Queen, and her extended family, are also supported by another allowance through the Duchy of Lancaster called the Privy Purse. In the latest fiscal year, the Duchy of Lancaster reported a net profit of $30 million.

As with any business, the pandemic has taken a toll on royal revenue. In September, the Keeper of the Privy Purse acknowledged that the royal balance sheet faced a potential $45 million shortfall, mostly due to a major drop in tourism and visits to royal landmarks in the U.K. because of lockdowns. He also added that the royals wouldn’t be asking for extra funding from the Treasury. Not that the Queen needs to fill her coffers. Her Majesty’s $500 million in personal assets is thanks to her investments, art, jewels and real estate, including two castles: Sandringham House and Balmoral Castle. The bulk of that will pass down to Prince Charles when he finally ascends the throne. And like his mother, he won’t directly own most of that $28 billion, which includes the Queen’s personal wealth, the assets under the Crown Estate, its holdings in Scotland, the Duchy of Lancaster, the Duchy of Cornwall and two palaces: Buckingham and Kensington.

Charles, Inc.

Now 72, Prince Charles has the second-biggest operation within the royal family. As the Duke of Cornwall, Charles gets an income from the Duchy of Cornwall in addition to what he already receives from the Sovereign Grant. The Duchy was founded in the 14th century by Edward III to keep his first-born son occupied (and flush) while waiting to become king. Nowadays, the Duchy has a staff of 150 managing a portfolio of more than 130,000 acres of property across southwest England worth nearly $1.3 billion.

As with the Crown Estate, Prince Charles cannot sell the assets belonging to the Duchy, but he can earn money from them. By renting out property to retailers, farmers and residents, the Duchy brought in more than $50 million in revenue last year, $30 million of which went to the Prince of Wales and his descendants to support their respective staffs and operations. Even without the crown, the Duchy of Cornwall is far more lucrative for Charles than the Sovereign Grant, which paid him less than $2.5 million last year. Of that, $7.3 million funded the Prince’s 132 personal staffers, $6.75 million went to taxes and $4.4 million was dedicated to charitable activities, including the Prince’s Trust, Charles’ charity to help unemployed youth. 

A good portion of this income has also been used to support his sons. Prince William and Prince Harry received a combined $7.8 million last year to support their own operations, but as Harry suggested in the Oprah interview, that is no longer the case for him. In the same interview, Meghan also suggested that part of what fueled the couple’s departure was the family’s intention to deny their son, Archie, from assuming the title of prince, along with the financial support from being a working royal. This, royal historian Harris says, is the manifestation of Charles’ particular focus on limiting the number of senior members—and consolidating the resources—of the family. Even if the decision to shut out Archie was strictly business, Harris notes that “the optics of that are not good, as that could be interpreted as excluding a mixed-race member of the royal family.” 

“The worst possible accusation in their speech to Oprah was that the royal family is racist,” Brand Finance’s Haigh says. “That would damage the economic effect [of royals].” In her first statement after the Sunday interview, the Queen addressed the matter in an effort to mitigate the gallons of negative press ink spilled covering the scandal. “The issues raised, particularly that of race, are concerning,” Her Majesty said in her official announcement. “Whilst some recollections may vary, they are taken very seriously and will be addressed by the family privately. Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved family members.”

William, LLC

The first son of Prince Charles and third in line to the throne, Prince William, does not have a direct source of income through his father’s Duchy—but he and his wife, Kate, certainly have the power to boost the sales of brands without the royal warrant, which, according to Brand Finance, added more than $165 million to the U.K. economy annually in 2017. Kate’s halo effect has often increased the sales of brands she is seen wearing or even those that emulated her style. In 2015, G.H. Hurt & Sons, which made Princess Charlotte’s baby shawl, recorded 100,000 visits after photos of the newborn appeared in the British press.

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge don’t receive any money from their influence, however. Now 38, William receives an annual income from the Duchy of Cornwall to cover his family’s private expenses. In the fiscal year ending March 2020, the prince received a portion of nearly $8 million, which he had to share with Prince Harry and Meghan Markle before they announced they were stepping away from their royal duties. Yet the Duke of Cambridge is not fully dependent on the income from the Duchy—neither is Harry. Part of the estate of their late mother, Princess Diana, went to the princes on their 25th birthdays. Thanks to what he inherited from Diana—which Forbes estimated to be $10 million—Harry and his family were able to settle down in California, he told Oprah on Sunday, after his family “literally cut [him] off financially.”

Going Out Of Business

Being cut off from the British royal family is hardly a financial death sentence. Now settled down in a $14.7 million Santa Barbara mansion in California, Harry and Meghan have several sweet deals to sustain them over the next few decades. The income will be necessary to fund round-the-clock security, which could cost as much as $4 million per year.

They also have multiple revenue streams. In December, the couple released their first podcast with Spotify, called Archewell Audio. That same month, the couple signed a three-year podcasting deal with the music giant that could be worth from as much as $15 million to $18 million, Forbes reported in February. This is in addition to the Apple TV+ series on mental health that Harry will executive produce with Winfrey for an undisclosed sum and a $100 million, five-year Netflix deal the royal couple signed in September. They are expected to produce documentaries, docuseries, feature films, scripted shows and children’s programming for the streaming service, and also rake in nearly four times the allowance they received from the Duchy of Cornwall.

Choosing Winfrey to conduct their first post-royal interview was as good for their future endeavors as it was for television. When Meghan opened up about her struggles with suicidal thoughts during her time at Frogmore Cottage and not having access to mental health support, Oprah mentioned her partnership with Harry. “No one should have to go through that,” she said instantly. “You know Harry and I are working on this mental health series for Apple, so we hear a lot of these stories.”

Free from the constraints of The Firm, Harry and Meghan will not likely struggle financially as his great uncle, King Edward VIII, did when he gave up the crown to marry an American divorcée, Wallis Simpson, in the 1930s. As Brand Finance’s Haigh notes, if they expand beyond their Netflix and Spotify deals and delve into jewelry and apparel, “Harry and Meghan could become a $1 billion brand.”

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WIKIPEDIA

CHARLES, PRINCE OF WALES

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles,_Prince_of_Wales

WIKIPEDIA

DIANA, PRINCESS OF WALES

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana,_Princess_of_Wales

WIKIPEDIA

PRINCE WILLIAM, DUKE OF CAMBRIDGE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_William,_Duke_of_Cambridge

WIKIPEDIA

PRINCE HARRY, DUKE OF SUSSEX

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Harry,_Duke_of_Sussex

”At St James’s Palace, the Duke of Edinburgh, the Prince of Wales, her sons, and her brother joined to walk behind”

WIKIPEDIA

FUNERAL OF DIANA, PRINCESS OF WALES/FUNERAL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funeral_of_Diana,_Princess_of_Wales#Funeral

ORIGINAL SOURCE

WIKIPEDIA

FUNERAL OF PRINCESS DIANA, PRINCESS OF WALES

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funeral_of_Diana,_Princess_of_Wales

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”Meghan: And, look, I was really ashamed to say it at the time and ashamed to have to admit it to Harry, especially, because I know how much loss he’s suffered. But I knew that if I didn’t say it, that I would do it. And I . . . I just didn’t . . . I just didn’t want to be alive any more. And that was a very clear and real and frightening constant thought. And I remember — I remember how he just cradled me. And I was — I went to the institution, and I said that I needed to go somewhere to get help. I said that, ‘I’ve never felt this way before, and I need to go somewhere’. And I was told that I couldn’t, that it wouldn’t be good for the institution. And I called . . ”

THE SUNMEGHAN MARKLE OPRAH INTERVIEW: READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPTOF DUCHESS AND PRINCE HARRY’S BOMBSHELL CONFESSIONS8 MARCH 2021
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14277841/meghan-markle-oprah-interview-full-transcript/

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‘In Winfrey’s interview, Meghan detailed how her mental health had deteriorated while she was pregnant amid a barrage of negative press and lack of support from “the firm” – the apparatus surrounding the royal household – which had repeatedly turned down her appeals for help and discouraged her from leaving the house for months.

“It was all happening just because I was breathing,” Meghan said, breaking down in tears during the interview, which was broadcast on ITV on Monday night. “I just didn’t want to be alive any more. That was a clear, real, frightening and constant thought.”

…..

……

”Morgan questioned on Monday’s edition of GMB whether she was telling the truth. “Who did you go to?” he said. “What did they say to you? I’m sorry, I don’t believe a word she said, Meghan Markle. I wouldn’t believe it if she read me a weather report.”

THE GUARDIAN

PIERS MORGAN LEAVES GOOD MORNING BRITAIN

AFTER MEGHAN ROW

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/mar/09/ofcom-investigating-gmb-piers-morgan-comments-harry-meghan-sussexes

Decision to quit follows Ofcom launching investigation after receiving more than 40,000 complaints

Piers Morgan has quit as co-host of ITV’s breakfast show Good Morning Britain after critical remarks he made about the Duchess of Sussex’s mental health prompted an on-air row with a colleague and an Ofcom investigation.

Pressure had mounted on Morgan since he made the comments on Monday’s edition of the show, which followed the airing of Meghan and Prince Harry’s tell-all interview with Oprah Winfrey in the US on Sunday night.

The Guardian understands that a formal complaint was lodged with ITV on behalf of the duchess after the broadcast.

By early evening on Tuesday, Ofcom had received more than 41,000 complaints about Morgan’s behaviour, prompting the broadcasting regulator to launch an investigation into whether his comments broke the UK broadcasting code relating to harm and offence.

Just a couple of hours later, ITV released a statement saying: “Following discussions with ITV, Piers Morgan has decided now is the time to leave Good Morning Britain. ITV has accepted this decision and has nothing further to add.”

In Winfrey’s interview, Meghan detailed how her mental health had deteriorated while she was pregnant amid a barrage of negative press and lack of support from “the firm” – the apparatus surrounding the royal household – which had repeatedly turned down her appeals for help and discouraged her from leaving the house for months.

“It was all happening just because I was breathing,” Meghan said, breaking down in tears during the interview, which was broadcast on ITV on Monday night. “I just didn’t want to be alive any more. That was a clear, real, frightening and constant thought.”’

She told Winfrey she had asked to go somewhere to get help with these suicidal thoughts, but was told it would not look good by one of the most senior people in the institution of the monarchy.

Morgan questioned on Monday’s edition of GMB whether she was telling the truth. “Who did you go to?” he said. “What did they say to you? I’m sorry, I don’t believe a word she said, Meghan Markle. I wouldn’t believe it if she read me a weather report.”

The remarks provoked a backlash, and it is understood that ITV executives wanted Morgan to apologise for them on-air. During Tuesday’s programme Morgan said: “When we talked about this yesterday, I said as an all-encompassing thing I don’t believe what Meghan Markle is saying generally in this interview, and I still have serious concerns about the veracity of a lot of what she said.

“But let me just state on the record my position about mental illness and on suicide. These are clearly extremely serious things that should be taken extremely seriously, and if someone is feeling that way they should get the treatment and help they need every time.”

On the same show, Morgan stormed off set after a discussion about Meghan with his colleague Alex Beresford. The weather presenter defended the couple, telling Morgan: “I understand you’ve got a personal relationship with Meghan Markle, or had one, and she cut you off. She’s entitled to cut you off if she wants to. Has she said anything about you since she cut you off? I don’t think she has but yet you continue to trash her.

As Beresford continued, Morgan got up and stormed out of the studio, saying: “OK, I’m done with this, sorry, no, can’t do this.” Beresford called his behaviour “pathetic” and “diabolical”, while co-host, Susanna Reid, was forced to send the show to an early break.

Beresford later tweeted of the discussion, in which he had also shared some of his own experiences of racism: “I wish I had the privilege to sit on the fence. In order for me to do that I would have to strip myself of my identity and that’s not something I can do. It’s not any of our places to pick apart claims of racism in order to make us to feel more comfortable.”

ITV’s chief executive, Dame Carolyn McCall, subsequently said the row was not “manufactured”.

McCall added that ITV’s managing director of media and entertainment, Kevin Lygo, had been in discussion with Morgan in recent days regarding his coverage of the Harry and Meghan interview. She said Good Morning Britain was a balanced show, adding: “ITV has many voices and we try and represent many voices every day. It’s not about one opinion.”

Among those reacting to Morgan’s exit from GMB, where he has been co-host since 2015, was Lorraine Kelly, who presents the 9am show on ITV that follows it. She told the BBC’s The One Show that Morgan had only just emailed her to break the news and said she had “no real details”.

“It’s certainly going to be quieter,” she said. “We all wish him well … Like I say, it will be calmer.”

Piers Morgan tweeted late on Tuesday: “Thinking of my late, great manager John Ferriter tonight. He’d have told me to do exactly the same thing. @GMB #TrustYourGut”

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”Just a couple of hours later, ITV released a statement saying: “Following discussions with ITV, Piers Morgan has decided now is the time to leave Good Morning Britain. ITV has accepted this decision and has nothing further to add.”


THE GUARDIAN

PIERS MORGAN LEAVES GOOD MORNING BRITAIN

AFTER MEGHAN ROW

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/mar/09/ofcom-investigating-gmb-piers-morgan-comments-harry-meghan-sussexes

END OF THE GUARDIAN ARTICLE
This is what ultimately led to his downfall after the Duchess of Sussex said she felt she “didn’t want to be alive any more”.
” Morgan said he “didn’t believe a word” the duchess had said in the interview. He later attempted to clarify his comments, saying his disbelief referred specifically to her claim that her request for support was rejected by Buckingham Palace. But by then, the damage was done.”

BBCPIERS MORGAN: FROM MEGHAN’S ”GHOSTING” TO GOODMORNING BRITAIN EXIT10 MARCH 2021
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-56326337

Piers Morgan first met Meghan Markle at a bar in Kensington in 2016.

At the time, the US actress was starring in legal drama Suits. She met Morgan while on a spring visit to the UK, as part of a trip that also included watching Wimbledon matches with her friend Serena Williams.

“We spent two hours in a pub, she had a couple of dirty martinis, I had a couple of pints, we got on brilliantly,” Morgan told Ryan Tubridy on RTÉ’s The Late Late Show.

“And then I put her in a cab, and it turned out to be a cab which took her to a party where she met Prince Harry. And the next night they had a solo dinner together, and that was the last I heard from Meghan Markle.

“She ghosted me, Ryan,” Morgan concluded. “Meghan Markle ghosted me.”

She might have gone quiet on Morgan, but it certainly wasn’t the last he and the rest of the world heard of Meghan.

Five years after those dirty martinis, she is the Duchess of Sussex, and her recent interview with Oprah Winfrey prompted so much anger from Morgan that it ultimately led to his exit from Good Morning Britain.

His departure has prompted a huge reaction from viewers and commentators, both positive and negative. But beyond those declaring their love or hatred for him, many have pointed out the far-reaching consequences of his exit.

It may be a symbolic and important gesture by a broadcaster concerned not to contradict its own message about mental health. But it will also mean the show loses its Rottweiler, who was widely praised for holding government ministers to account during the pandemic.

His absence will also almost certainly harm viewing figures. ITV shares fell nearly 5% on Wednesday, wiping almost £200m off its market value, following the announcement of Morgan’s departure.

At the point Morgan entered the world of breakfast television, ITV had been suffering poor viewing figures for several years. GMTV had been rebranded as Daybreak in 2010, but that was failing to match the ratings of its predecessor.

In 2014, ITV decided it was time for another change. Daybreak was scrapped, Good Morning Britain was launched, and Susanna Reid was poached from BBC Breakfast.

Morgan’s arrival the following year was disruptive, to put it mildly. He was combative and opinionated, a far cry from the usual warm, cuddly tone of breakfast television, and closer to the style of some morning programmes in the US.

Scepticism of woke culture was at the core of Morgan’s appeal, to the point where he wrote a book on the subject in 2020. While the rest of society grappled with issues of social progress, Morgan’s refusal to toe the politically correct line led to both backlash and praise.

His impact could be measured in a number of ways. First, there were the viewing figures, which increased dramatically. While BBC Breakfast held on to its crown, GMB improved its viewing share as people tuned in to hear Morgan’s take on the day’s events. As a result, ITV made more money from advertising.

You could also look at the column inches. The more outrageous Piers was, the more people would talk about him. The more news outlets wrote stories about him, the more clicks and ad revenue they got. By complaining so vocally, his critics were keeping him relevant, completing the cycle.

Those complaints from viewers and campaign groups were made both to Ofcom and ITV.

In 2019, an item about gender identity in which Morgan claimed he now “identifies as a penguin” prompted 1,000 complaints to the media regulator and outcry from charities and viewers. It sparked a petition, signed by more than 90,000 people, calling for his sacking. Proving his divisiveness, a counter petition was set up to keep him, and was signed by 72,000.

When a TV producer said on Twitter earlier this year that he would not work with Morgan again, the presenter responded by saying he would “rather employ a lobotomised Aardvark”. That led to an open letter to ITV accusing Morgan of bullying, signed by more than 1,000 industry workers.

And yet, Morgan has always considered himself to have liberal views. His CNN programme in the US was famous for his campaigning on gun control. And he claims “not to have a prejudiced bone in his body”, much to the incredulity of his opponents.

“The woke crowd loathe me, because the informed ones know I’m actually a liberal,” he wrote in his book, Wake Up, last year. “So on paper, I’m one of them. I’m therefore the enemy within.”

Morgan added that he considers himself a feminist and a supporter of gay rights, civil rights and transgender rights – “apart from the absurd new trend of limitless self-identification”.

But the damage his words have inflicted also cannot be ignored, such as his apparent dismissal of mental health issues. This is what ultimately led to his downfall after the Duchess of Sussex said she felt she “didn’t want to be alive any more”.

Morgan said he “didn’t believe a word” the duchess had said in the interview. He later attempted to clarify his comments, saying his disbelief referred specifically to her claim that her request for support was rejected by Buckingham Palace. But by then, the damage was done.

Welsh Health Minister Vaughan Gething spoke for many when he described Morgan’s comments as “wholly unacceptable, incredibly unkind and exactly where we should not be in public debate and discourse”.

“We’ve won lots of ground by talking and being more open about mental health challenges,” he said. “I think the comments and the tone of them would have set a number of people back.”

Morgan was also accused of missing the mark on the issues of racism raised by Meghan. He has always maintained the press’s coverage of her is motivated by her behaviour, not underlying racism.

“I’m sorry Piers, you don’t get to call out what is and isn’t racism against black people,” Trisha Goddard told him on Monday’s programme. “I’ll leave you to call out all the other stuff you want, but leave the racism stuff to us, eh?”

However, Morgan had also won over some of his previous critics in the past year, for his challenging interviews with government ministers. The absence of these exchanges will be a big loss to the show, as Kevin Maguire and Krishnan Guru-Murthy have pointed out.

Hiring a shock jock was always going to result in controversy. But could ITV have done more to rein him in?

Channel 4 historian and media commentator Maggie Brown said: “Piers Morgan needed a stronger editor or producer to just keep him in check while allowing him to be bombastic, mainstream and successful. Himself. This is a common pattern for much appreciated TV stars who go on to overstep the mark.”

And what might Morgan do next? Losing jobs has never stopped his career progression in the past.

After his exit from GMB, former politician George Galloway tweeted: “Dear Piers Morgan. You told me once ‘a sacking is an opportunity’. It turned out that way for me and I hope it will for you. In fact I’m sure it will.”

Morgan will not come cheap, but many would be keen to hire him all the same, particularly the soon-to-be-launched GB News. The channel’s chairman Andrew Neil said on Wednesday that he would be open to giving Morgan a job.

It is perhaps fitting that Morgan’s last ever appearance as a GMB presenter saw him finally get his six-year long wish.

“Good Morning Britain beat BBC Breakfast in the ratings yesterday for the first time,” Morgan pointed out when he received the viewing figures for Tuesday’s episode.

“My work is done.”

END OF THE ARTICLE

”Five years after those dirty martinis, she is the Duchess of Sussex, and her recent interview with Oprah Winfrey prompted so much anger from Morgan that it ultimately led to his exit from Good Morning Britain.”
BBCPIERS MORGAN: FROM MEGHAN’S ”GHOSTING” TO GOODMORNING BRITAIN EXIT10 MARCH 2021
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-56326337

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” The modern concept of race emerged as a product of the colonial enterprises of European powers from the 16th to 18th centuries which identified race in terms of skin color and physical differences. This way of classification would have been confusing for people in the ancient world since they did not categorize each other in such a fashion.[46] In particular, the epistemological moment where the modern concept of race was invented and rationalized lies somewhere between 1730 and 1790.”
WIKIPEDIARACE/HISTORICAL ORIGINS OF RACIAL CLASSIFICATION
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_categorization)#Historical_origins_of_racial_classification
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WIKIPEDIARACE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_categorization)#:~:text=A%20race%20is%20a%20grouping,to%20physical%20(phenotypical)%20traits.

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WIKIPEDIAARCHIE MOUNTBATTEN-WINDSOR
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_Mountbatten-Windsor

A ROYAL BABY FOR THE DUKE AND DUCHESS OF SUSSEX!/LORD ARCHIE, WELCOME TO THE WORLD!ASTRID ESSED9 MAY 2019
https://www.astridessed.nl/a-royal-baby-for-the-duke-and-duchess-of-sussex-lord-archie-welcome-to-the-world/

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This handout provided by Buckingham Palace shows a statement issued on behalf of Britain's Queen Elizabeth on Tuesday, March 9, 2021. The statement is the first comment by the palace following Harry and Meghan’s two hour interview with Oprah Winfrey in which they alleged that Meghan had experienced racism and callous treatment during her time in the royal family. (Buckingham Palace via AP)

This handout provided 

APNEWS.COMBUCKINGHAM PALACE STATEMENT ON HARRY AND MEGHAN OPRAH INTERVIEW
https://apnews.com/article/buckingham-palace-statement-harry-meghan-oprah-interview-0a3c32ab79f800c54c346fe82a2e8404

LONDON (AP) — Buckingham Palace on Tuesday responded to Prince Harry and Meghan’s interview with Oprah Winfrey. Here is the statement in full.

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“The following statement is issued by Buckingham Palace on behalf of Her Majesty the Queen.

“The whole family is saddened to learn the full extent of how challenging the last few years have been for Harry and Meghan.

“The issues raised, particularly that of race, are concerning. While some recollections may vary, they are taken very seriously and will be addressed by the family privately.

“Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved family members.”

END OF THE ARTICLE

COSMOPOLITANBUCKINGHAM PALACE ISSUES A STATEMENT AFTERMEGHAN MARKLE AND PRINCE HARRY’S TELL-ALLINTERVIEW9 MARCH 2021
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a35784672/buckingham-palace-statement-meghan-markle-prince-harry-interview/

The Queen says “recollections” of certain events “may vary.”

It’s going on day two after Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s tell-all interview with Oprah, and people still can’t stop talking about it…probably because it makes the royal institution as a whole look not so great. Meghan revealed that an unnamed someone within the royal family expressed “concern” over “how dark [Archie’s] skin might be when he’s born,”in addition to several other bombshells—including Kate Middleton making Meghan cry—in the interview. Buckingham Palace has now responded, saying they are “saddened” after learning of Meghan and Harry’s experience with racism while working as senior royals.

In an official statement, Queen Elizabeth said:

“The whole family is saddened to learn the full extent of how challenging the last few years have been for Harry and Meghan.

“The issues raised, particularly that of race, are concerning. While some recollections may vary, they are taken very seriously and will be addressed by the family privately.

“Harry, Meghan, and Archie will always be much loved family members.”

The Queen’s statement comes after palace insiders told the Daily Mail’s royal reporter Rebecca English that the Queen was in “crisis talks” with Prince William and Prince Charles about how to respond. “Staff are reeling,” a source said. “But there is [also] a strong sense of needing to retain a dignified silence and show kindness and compassion. There’s a lot people want to say but no one wins with a tit-for-tat battle. Bridges need to be built after all this is over, after all.”

Ironically enough, this statement also comes shortly after Buckingham Palace released a very lengthy statement saying it’ll be conducting a thorough investigation about the bullying that one of Meghan’s former advisers at Kensington Palace accused her of, just days ahead of the interview.

END OF THE ARTICLE

CNBC.COM

QUEEN ELIZABETH RESPONDS TO HARRY

AND MEGHAN’S OPRAH INTERVIEW, SAYS

RACISM CLAIM WILL BE ADRESSED

9 MARCH 2021

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/09/buckingham-palaces-reaction-after-harry-and-meghans-oprah-interview.html

LONDON — Queen Elizabeth said Tuesday that the royal family will address allegations of racism within Buckingham Palace made by Prince Harry and the Duchess of Sussex in their explosive interview with Oprah Winfrey.

The queen’s comments were her first since that interview, when Harry and Meghan Markle also detailed a lack of support by the royal family for the duchess’s mental health issues and media intrusion.

“The whole family is saddened to learn the full extent of how challenging the last few years have been for Harry and Meghan,” Elizabeth said in a statement issued at 5:30 p.m. London time, after hours of speculation about how she would respond to the claims.

“The issues raised, particularly that of race, are concerning. While some recollections may vary, they are taken very seriously and will be addressed by the family privately,” she added.

“Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved family members.”

Before the statement, there had been a wall of silence from the royal family about the interview, which was aired Sunday on CBS and by British broadcaster ITV on Monday night.

The palace was said to have held “crisis talks,” according to British media reports, including the BBC, with senior royals reported to have had urgent discussions over how to limit the fallout from the interview, which saw Harry and Meghan allege that a member of the royal family had questioned what skin tone their then-unborn child might have.

Meghan, the first mixed-race member of the modern British royal family, would not reveal who had made the comment, saying, “I think that would be very damaging for them.”

The palace would not comment on the interview when contacted by CNBC on Tuesday.

During a public visit to a Covid vaccination center in London on Tuesday, Prince Charles was asked what he thought of the interview by a Sky News reporter, but did not comment.

Winfrey later clarified that the royal who had made the comment was not Queen Elizabeth II or Prince Philip.

The two-hour interview, skillfully handled by the veteran broadcaster, was watched by 17.1 million viewers in the U.S. More than 12 million viewers watched the U.K. transmission, according to figures released by ITV on Tuesday.

In addition to allegations of racism, the interview contained damaging claims that the palace had failed to provide support for Meghan when she experienced mental health issues that left her feeling suicidal.

The Sussexes spoke of the pressures of royal life and also said they had been prompted to leave the U.K., and to step back from their roles as working royals early last year, because of hostility from the British tabloid press that they said the palace had failed to defend them from.

Nonetheless, the couple also said the royal family had been welcoming of Meghan when their relationship began in 2016. Meghan also said that the queen had always been “wonderful” to her.

Britain’s press responded on Tuesday with a mixture of recognition of how damaging the interview had been, and also some defensiveness.

While many papers reflected on the “bombshell” allegations that had left the palace “reeling,” others said the interview was self-serving for the couple and disrespectful to the queen.

The Daily Mirror’s headline said the interview had provoked “the worst royal crisis in 85 years,” while the Daily Express headlined with, “So sad it has come to this,” alongside a picture of the queen. The Daily Mail, meanwhile, headlined its paper Tuesday morning with the words: “What have they done?”

How damaging is it?

The interview has left commentators and royal correspondents questioning how damaging the allegations are for the royal family, an institution that has worked to maintain a public image of duty and decorum and has always sought to keep internal family affairs, let alone rifts and controversies, out of the spotlight.

After the U.S. broadcast of the interview, there was widespread public support for Meghan among commentators and friends of the couple. In the U.K., a country in which most people tend to hold the queen in high regard, if not always the wider monarchy, the reaction has been more mixed.

A live YouGov poll on Tuesday asked the public “with whom do your sympathies mostly lie” after the interview and the current results showed 40% of respondents feeling more sympathetic toward the queen and royal family, with 24% more sympathetic toward Harry and Meghan. Tellingly perhaps, another 24% said “neither.”

Whether the revelations will rock an enduring fascination with the British royal family at home and abroad remains to be seen. The dispute is bound to reignite debate over the value of the monarchy, however, and republican sentiment.

It has already stoked discussion in Australia, part of the Commonwealth and where the queen is still head of state, over whether it is time for change, with former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull reportedly telling ABC TV in Australia on Tuesday that “our head of state should be an Australian citizen, should be one of us, not the Queen or King of the United Kingdom.”

New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, meanwhile, said Monday that the country was unlikely to stop having the queen as a head of state anytime soon.

Royal worth?

There has long been a debate over the worth and cost of the monarchy, which brings in tourism revenue to the country, but also comes at a cost to the British taxpayer.

The royal household receives income from what’s known as its Crown Estate — land and properties belonging to the queen, such as Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle, open to the public during normal times and which bring in revenue — as well as what’s called the Sovereign Grant.

The single grant is money paid by the government to enable the queen to “discharge her duties as head of state,” the government says, but it also supports other senior royals’ official duties such as overseas visits, hospitality and public engagements.

In exchange for these public funds, however, the queen has to surrender revenue from the Crown Estate to the government, which in turn calculates how much money makes up the grant.

Explaining how the Sovereign Grant works, the government noted last year that: “In exchange for this public support, the Queen surrenders the revenue from The Crown Estate to the government which for 2018-19 was £343.5 million. The Sovereign Grant for 2020-21 is £85.9 million which is 25% of £343.5 million.”

The sovereign grant for 2018-2019 amounted to £82.2 million ($107.1 million), up from £76.1 million in 2017-2018, which was equivalent to £1.24 per person in the U.K. Currently, the royal family will cost every Brit (on a population total of 66.8 million) £1.28 per year.

That’s not much given that the royal family does attract visitors to the U.K., with tourism agency Visit Britain reporting back in 2017 that tourism linked to royal residences such as Buckingham Palace and Windsor Castle adds up to 2.7 million visitors a year. It’s hard to pinpoint how many visitors come specifically to the U.K. because of the monarchy, however.

Royal weddings, including Prince William and Kate Middleton in 2011, and Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s nuptials in 2018, were also seen as bolstering U.K. tourism, adding hundreds of thousands of visitors, and giving a boost to gross domestic product. Both princes’ weddings brought about a boon for U.K. tourism and the economy. Again though, weddings involve extra security and spending that ultimately falls on taxpayer’s shoulders; Harry and Meghan’s wedding reportedly cost about $42.8 million with a large part of the budget spent on security and extra policing, while William and Kate’s 2011 wedding reportedly came at a cost to the taxpayer of £20 million, or around $27 million.

The anti-monarchy campaign group Republic contests the idea that the monarchy is a boon for U.K. tourism, saying there is no evidence to back up such claims.

END OF THE ARTICLE

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APNEWS.COMBUCKINGHAM PALACE STATEMENT ON HARRY AND MEGHAN OPRAH INTERVIEW
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THE SUNMEGHAN MARKLE OPRAH INTERVIEW: READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPTOF DUCHESS AND PRINCE HARRY’S BOMBSHELL CONFESSIONS8 MARCH 2021
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”Meghan: But I can give you an honest answer. In those months when I was pregnant, all around this same time . . . so we have in tandem the conversation of ‘He won’t be given security, he’s not going to be given a title’ and also concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he’s born.’

THE SUN

MEGHAN MARKLE OPRAH INTERVIEW: 

READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPTOF DUCHESS AND PRINCE 

HARRY’S BOMBSHELL CONFESSIONS

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BBCMEGHAN AND HARRY INTERVIEW:RACISM CLAIMS, DUKE ”LED DOWN” BY DAD, AND DUCHESS ON KATE9 MARCH

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56316659


The Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s much-anticipated interview with Oprah Winfrey has aired in the US and the UK – with the couple sharing their side of the story about life in the Royal Family.

The couple spoke about their relationships with other royals, racism and how their mental health suffered.

Meghan spoke with Oprah for most of the interview, before being joined by Prince Harry.

1. ‘Discussions about how dark Meghan’s baby might be’

One of the biggest allegations from the interview was that there were “several conversations” within the Royal Family about how dark Meghan and Harry’s baby might be.

“In those months when I was pregnant [there were] concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he was born,” said Meghan.

She said the conversations were with Harry, who relayed them to her. Both she and Harry refused to say which royal said it.

“That conversation, I am never going to share,” said Harry. “At the time it was awkward, I was a bit shocked.”

Harry also said that it hurt him that his family never spoke out about the “colonial undertones” of news headlines and articles.

2. Kate ‘made Meghan cry’ – not the other way around

One story that circulated in the newspapers a few years ago was that the Duchess of Cambridge was left in tears by Meghan in the run-up to the wedding in a row over flower girl dresses.

But Meghan told Oprah the reverse was true.

“A few days before the wedding [Kate] was upset about the flower girl dresses and it made me cry,” Meghan said. She said Kate later apologised and brought flowers and a note to make amends.

“I’m not sharing that piece about Kate to be disparaging about her,” Meghan said. She said Kate was “a good person” and hoped that she would have wanted the false stories corrected.

3. Meghan said she was on the verge of suicide but was refused help

Meghan spoke about how lonely she felt after joining the Royal Family and the loss of her freedom. “When I joined that family, that was the last time until we came here that I saw my passport, my driver’s licence, my keys, all that gets turned over,” she said.

She said her mental health got so bad that she “didn’t want to be alive any more”.

“I went to the institution and I said that I needed to go somewhere to get help, said I had never felt that way before and need to go somewhere, and I was told that I couldn’t, that it wouldn’t be good for the institution.”

She said she went to “one of the most senior people” within the institution and then to the palace human resources department. “Nothing was ever done,” she added.

4. Meghan spoke to one of Diana’s friends

Princess Diana’s name came up many times throughout the interview – with similarities drawn between their experiences of being in the Royal Family.

“I didn’t even know who to turn to,” said Meghan, of the time when she was struggling. “One of the people I reached out to who’s continued to be a friend and confidante was one of my husband’s mom’s best friends.

“Because it’s like who else could understand what it’s actually like on the inside?”

5. Harry feels ‘let down’ by Charles

Oprah asked Harry about his relationships with his family and especially with his father, the Prince of Wales, and brother, the Duke of Cambridge.

At one point after stepping back as senior royals, Harry said Charles “stopped taking my calls”.

“I feel really let down because he’s been through something similar, he knows what pain feels like and Archie’s his grandson.

“But at the same time, of course I will always love him but there’s a lot of hurt that’s happened and I will continue to make it one of my priorities to try and heal that relationship.”

On William, Harry said he loved him to bits and they have been through hell together. “But we were on different paths.”

6. But the couple’s relationship with the Queen is good

Harry said he has a “really good” relationship with his grandmother and he has spoken to her more in the past year – including video calls with Archie – than he has for many years.

“She’s my colonel-in-chief, right? She always will be.”

Meghan also praised the Queen and said she gave her some beautiful jewellery for the couple’s first joint engagement together as well as sharing a blanket with her to keep warm while travelling together.

7. Harry ‘cut off financially’

In the first quarter of 2020, Harry said his family “literally cut me off financially”.

He said the Netflix and Spotify deals that he and Meghan have struck to make shows and podcasts were never part of the plan but “I had to afford security for us”.

“But I’ve got what my mum left me and without that we wouldn’t have been able to do this.”

The couple reveal that, after they were cut off, American billionaire and media mogul Tyler Perry provided Harry and Meghan with a home and security last year when they moved from Canada to southern California.

8. The truth behind a photograph

Meghan said that the evening after she told Harry that she was feeling suicidal, they had to attend an official event at the Royal Albert Hall.

Meghan spoke about a photo that has haunted her because of what it reminded her of.

She said a friend had commented how great the couple looked but she added: “That picture, if you zoom in, what I see is how tightly his knuckles are gripped around mine,” she told Oprah, as she became emotional.

“We are smiling and doing our job but we’re both just trying to hold on. “Every time those lights went down in that royal box, I was just weeping.”

9. Meghan ‘didn’t do any research’ on the Royal Family

Talking about the first time she met the Queen, Meghan said she was surprised to learn she had to curtsy.

She said she thought it was just “part of the fanfare” and didn’t happen inside the Royal Family

She described having to quickly practise curtsying before an impromptu lunch with the Queen. “I said: ‘It’s your grandmother,” said Meghan. “He said: ‘It’s the Queen.'”

Meghan added that she hadn’t done any research on the family before joining – and insisted she had never looked up her husband online while they were dating.

10. They exchanged vows three days before their wedding

Millions of people watched Harry and Meghan tie the knot at Windsor Castle in 2018. That ceremony was when they were legally married – but the couple revealed they also exchanged vows in front of the Archbishop of Canterbury three days before.

Meghan said: “We called the archbishop and we just said, ‘look, this thing, this spectacle is for the world but we want our union between us… just the two of us in our backyard’.”

11. Archie’s favourite phrase is ‘drive safe’

Harry spoke about Archie, and the joy he gets from taking him out on bike rides. The interview included a clip of the toddler playing on the beach with his parents.

The couple joked that his favourite word for the past few weeks has been “hydrate”, and Harry said whenever anyone leaves the house, Archie tells them “drive safe”.

12. And… it’s a girl

The couple confirm they’re expecting a baby girl in the summer.

Harry said it was “amazing”, adding: “What more can you ask for?” – but said they would be done after baby number two arrives.

Towards the end of the interview, Oprah asked if Meghan had got her happy ending with Prince Harry after all. “Greater than any fairytale that you’ve ever read,” she said.

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2. Kate ‘made Meghan cry’ – not the other way around

BBCMEGHAN AND HARRY INTERVIEW:RACISM CLAIMS, DUKE ”LED DOWN” BY DAD, AND DUCHESS ON KATE9 MARCH

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56316659
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THE SUNMEGHAN MARKLE OPRAH INTERVIEW: READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPTOF DUCHESS AND PRINCE HARRY’S BOMBSHELL CONFESSIONS8 MARCH 2021
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14277841/meghan-markle-oprah-interview-full-transcript/

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THE SUNMEGHAN MARKLE OPRAH INTERVIEW: READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPTOF DUCHESS AND PRINCE HARRY’S BOMBSHELL CONFESSIONS8 MARCH 2021
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14277841/meghan-markle-oprah-interview-full-transcript/

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‘ And I . . . and I remember so often people within The Firm would say, ‘Well, you can’t do this because it’ll look like that. You can’t’. So, even, ‘Can I go and have lunch with my friends?’ ‘No, no, no, you’re oversaturated, you’re every-where, it would be best for you to not go out to lunch with your friends’. I go, ‘Well, I haven’t . . . I haven’t left the house in months’.”

THE SUNMEGHAN MARKLE OPRAH INTERVIEW: READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPTOF DUCHESS AND PRINCE HARRY’S BOMBSHELL CONFESSIONS8 MARCH 2021
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14277841/meghan-markle-oprah-interview-full-transcript/

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””Oprah: So the institution is never a person. Or is it a series of people?

Meghan: No, it’s a person.

Oprah: It’s a person.

Meghan: It’s several people”
THE SUNMEGHAN MARKLE OPRAH INTERVIEW: READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPTOF DUCHESS AND PRINCE HARRY’S BOMBSHELL CONFESSIONS8 MARCH 2021
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14277841/meghan-markle-oprah-interview-full-transcript/

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”Oprah: So the institution is never a person. Or is it a series of people?

Meghan: No, it’s a person.

Oprah: It’s a person.

Meghan: It’s several people. But I went to one of the most senior people just to . . . to get help. And that — you know, I share this, because there’s so many people who are afraid to voice that they need help. And I know, personally, how hard it is to not just voice it, but when you voice it, to be told no.

Oprah: Whoo.

Meghan: And so, I went to human resources, and I said, ‘I just really — I need help’. Because in my old job, there was a union, and they would protect me. And I remember this conversation like it was yesterday, because they said, ‘My heart goes out to you, because I see how bad it is, but there’s nothing we can do to protect you because you’re not a paid employee of the institution’.”

THE SUNMEGHAN MARKLE OPRAH INTERVIEW: READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPTOF DUCHESS AND PRINCE HARRY’S BOMBSHELL CONFESSIONS8 MARCH 2021
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THE STORY OF THE ”SKIN COLOUR” OF THE BABY

”Oprah: And I know that’s a loaded question, but . . . 

Meghan: But I can give you an honest answer. In those months when I was pregnant, all around this same time . . . so we have in tandem the conversation of ‘He won’t be given security, he’s not going to be given a title’ and also concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he’s born.

Oprah: What?

Meghan: And . . . 

Oprah: Who . . . who is having that conversation with you? What?

Meghan: So . . . 

Oprah: There is a conversation . . . hold on. Hold up. Hold up. Stop right now.

Meghan: There were . . . there were several conversations about it.

Oprah: There’s a conversation with you . . ? 

Meghan: With Harry.

Oprah: About how dark your baby is going to be?

Meghan: Potentially, and what that would mean or look like.

Oprah: Whoo. And you’re not going to tell me who had the conversation?

Meghan: I think that would be very damaging to them.

Oprah: OK. So, how . . . how does one have that meeting?

There were conversations …about no security, no title… and how dark his skin might be when he’s born.

Meghan: That was relayed to me from Harry. Those were conversations that family had with him. And I think . . . ”THE SUNMEGHAN MARKLE OPRAH INTERVIEW: READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPTOF DUCHESS AND PRINCE HARRY’S BOMBSHELL CONFESSIONS8 MARCH 2021
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THE STORY OF THE ”SKIN COLOUR” OF THE BABY, CONFIRMED BY PRINCE HARRY:

”Oprah: Well, what is particularly striking is what Meghan shared with us earlier, is that no one wants to admit that there’s anything about race or that race has played a role in the trolling and the vitriol, and yet Meghan shared with us that there was a conversation with you about Archie’s skin tone.

Harry: Mm-hmm.

Oprah: What was that conversation?

Harry: That conversation I’m never going to share, but at the time . . . at the time, it was awkward. I was a bit shocked.

Oprah: Can you . . . can you tell us what the question was?

Harry: No. I don’t . . . I’m not comfortable with sharing that.

Oprah: OK.

Harry: But that was . . . that was right at the beginning, right?

Oprah: Like, what will the baby look like?

Harry: Yeah, what will the kids look like?THE SUNMEGHAN MARKLE OPRAH INTERVIEW: READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPTOF DUCHESS AND PRINCE HARRY’S BOMBSHELL CONFESSIONS8 MARCH 2021
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BUCKINGHAM PALACE STATEMENT ON THE DUKE AND DUCHESSOF SUSSEX

https://www.royal.uk/buckingham-palace-statement-duke-and-duchess-sussex
The British Monarchy

Published 19 February 2021

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have confirmed to Her Majesty The Queen that they will not be returning as working members of The Royal Family.  

Following conversations with The Duke, The Queen has written confirming that in stepping away from the work of The Royal Family it is not possible to continue with the responsibilities and duties that come with a life of public service. The honorary military appointments and Royal patronages held by The Duke and Duchess will therefore be returned to Her Majesty, before being redistributed among working members of The Royal Family.
 
While all are saddened by their decision, The Duke and Duchess remain much loved members of the family.

Notes to editors: 

Following The Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s decision to step away last year as working members of The Royal Family, a 12-month review was agreed.

A decision has now been made after conversations between The Duke of Sussex and Members of The Royal Family. 

The military, Commonwealth and Charitable associations which will revert to The Queen are:

The Royal Marines, RAF Honington, Royal Navy Small Ships and Diving.

The Queen’s Commonwealth Trust, The Rugby Football Union, The Rugby Football League, The Royal National Theatre and The Association of Commonwealth Universities.

END OF THE STATEMENT

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THE SUNMEGHAN MARKLE OPRAH INTERVIEW: 

READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPTOF DUCHESS AND PRINCE 

HARRY’S BOMBSHELL CONFESSIONS

8 MARCH 2021

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14277841/meghan-markle-oprah-interview-full-transcript/

IT was the most sensational royal interview since Diana’s Panorama bombshell 26 years ago.

Speaking to Oprah Winfrey in California, Harry and Meghan blasted “racist” Britain, the Royal Family and the Press, while highlighting Meghan’s mental health struggles. Here, we reveal the full astonishing transcript…

OPRAH: We can’t hug, everybody is double- masked and has face shields. You look lovely. Do you know if you’re having a boy or a girl?

Meghan: We do this time. I’ll wait for my husband to join us and we can share that with you.

Oprah: That would be really great. Before we get into to it, I just want to make clear to everybody that, even though we’re neighbours, I’m down the road, you’re up the road, we’re using a friend’s place. There has not been an agreement, you don’t know what I’m going to ask, there is no subject that’s off limits and you are not getting paid for this interview.

Meghan: All of that’s correct.

Oprah: I remember sitting in the chapel — thanks for inviting me, by the way. I so recall this sense of magic. I never experienced anything like it. When you came through that door, you seemed like you were floating down the aisle. Were you even inside your body at that time?

Meghan: I’ve thought about this a lot. It was like having an out-of- body experience I was very present for. The night before, I slept through the night entirely, which is a bit of a miracle, and then woke up and started listening to Going To The Chapel, to make it fun and light and remind ourselves this was our day. We were both aware in advance of that this wasn’t our day, this was the day planned for the world.

Oprah: Everybody who gets married knows you’re really marrying the family. But you weren’t just marrying a family, you were marrying a 1,200-year-old institution, you’re marrying the monarchy. What did you think it was going to be like?

Meghan: I would say I went into it naively because I didn’t grow up knowing much about the Royal Family. It wasn’t part of something that was part of conversation at home. It wasn’t something that we followed. My mum even said to me a couple of months ago, ‘Did Diana ever do an interview?’ Now I can say. ‘Yes, a very famous one’, but my mum doesn’t know that.

Oprah: But you were aware of the royals and, if you were going to marry into the royals, you’d do research about what that would mean?

Meghan: I didn’t do any research about what that would mean.

Oprah: You didn’t do any research?

Meghan: No. I didn’t feel any need to, because everything I needed to know he was sharing with me. Everything we thought I needed to know, he was telling me.

Oprah: So, you didn’t have a conversation with yourself, or talk to your friends about what it would be like to marry a prince, who is Harry, who you had fallen in love with . . . you didn’t give it a lot of thought?

Meghan: No. We thought a lot about what we thought it might be. I didn’t fully understand what the job was: What does it mean to be a working royal? What do you do? What does that mean? He and I were very aligned on our cause- driven work, that was part of our initial connection. But there was no way to understand what the day-to- day was going to be like, and it’s so different because I didn’t romanticise any element of it. But I think, as Americans especially, what you do know about the royals is what you read in fairytales, and you think is what you know about the royals. It’s easy to have an image that is so far from reality, and that’s what was so tricky over those past few years, when the perception and the reality are two different things and you’re being judged on the perception but you’re living the reality of it. There’s a complete misalignment and there’s no way to explain that to people.

Oprah: With every family things get serious when you’re brought in to meet the grandmother or the mother. The grandmother is the matriarch and, in your situation it’s the Queen.’

Meghan: She was one of the first people I met. The real Queen.

Oprah: What was that like? Were you worried about making the right impression?

Meghan: There wasn’t a huge formality the first time I met Her Majesty The Queen. We were going for lunch at Royal Lodge, which is where some other members of the family live, specifically Andrew and Fergie, and Eugenie and Beatrice would spend a lot of time there. Eugenie and I had known each other before I knew Harry, so that was comfortable and it turned out the Queen was finishing a church service in Windsor and so she was going to be at the house. Harry and I were in the car and he says, ‘OK, well my grandmother is there, you’re going to meet her’. (I said) ‘OK, great’. I loved my grandmother, I used to take care of my grandmother. (He said) ‘Do you know how to curtsey?’ ‘What?’ ‘Do you know how to curtsey?’ I thought genuinely that’s what happens outside, that was part of the fanfare. I didn’t think that’s what happens inside. I go, ‘But it’s your grandmother’. He goes, ‘It’s the Queen!’

Oprah: Wow!

Meghan: And that was really the first moment the penny dropped?

Oprah: Did you Google how to curtsey?

Meghan: No, we were in the car. Deeply, to show respect, I learned it very quickly right in front of the house. We practised and walked in. 

Oprah: Harry practised?

Meghan: Yeah, and Fergie ran out and said, ‘Are you ready? Do you know how to curtsey? Oh, my goodness, you guys’. I practised very quickly and went in, and apparently I did a very deep curtsey, and we just sat there and we chatted and it was lovely and easy and I think, thank God, I hadn’t known a lot about the family. Thank God, I hadn’t researched. I would have been so in my head about all of it.

Oprah: (What) you’re sharing with us is that you were no more nervous as a regular person who goes to meet somebody’s grandmother.

Meghan: I had confused the idea. I grew up in LA, you see celebrities all the time. This is not the same but it’s very easy, especially as an American, to go, ‘These are famous people’. This is a completely different ball game.

(Cut to them and Oprah at their house)

Oprah: What are you feeling here (their home)? What’s the word?

Meghan: Peace.

Oprah: Peace?

Meghan: Yeah.

(Oprah narrates) The day after our interview, I stopped over to Harry and Meghan’s new home.

Meghan: Hi, Guy (dog).

Oprah: Hi, Guy.

Meghan: Yeah, Guy’s been — Guy’s been through everything with me.

Oprah: Yeah, from the beginning, from the very first date, yeah?

Meghan: If Guy, I mean, I had him in Canada. I got him from a kill shelter in Kentucky.

Oprah: Yeah?

(In Harry and Meghan’s hen coop)

Meghan: Hi, girls!

(Oprah narrates) We put on wellies to feed the hens Meghan and Harry recently rescued from a factory farm. ‘I love your little designer house here. Archie’s chick inn. Oh, how cute is that.’

Harry: She’s always wanted chickens.

Meghan: Well, you know, I just love rescuing.

Oprah: So, this is a part of your new life? What are you most excited about?

Meghan: Whoop! You’re OK . . . 

Oprah: What are you most excited about in the new life? What are you most excited about? Here, chick, chick, chick, chick.

Meghan: I think just being able to live authentically.

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: Right? Like this kind of stuff. It’s so, it’s so basic, but it’s really fulfilling. Just getting back down to basics. I was thinking about it — even at our wedding, you know, three days before our wedding, we got married . . . 

Oprah: Ah!

Meghan: No one knows that. But we called the Archbishop, and we just said, ‘Look, this thing, this spectacle is for the world, but we want our union between us’. So, like, the vows that we have framed in our room are just the two of us in our backyard with the Archbishop of Canterbury, and that was the piece that . . . 

Harry: Just the three of us.

Oprah: Really?

Harry: Just the three of us.

Meghan: Just the three of us.

(Back to Oprah)

Oprah: You know, the wedding was the most perfect picture, you know, anybody’s ever seen. But through that picture that we were all seeing, behind the scenes, obviously, there was a lot of drama going on. And soon after your marriage, the tabloids started offering stories that painted a not-so-flattering picture of you in your new world. There were rumours about you being ‘Hurricane Meghan’.

Meghan: I hadn’t heard that.

Oprah: OK.

Oprah: So, there were rumours about you being Hurricane Meghan, for the departure of several high-profile palace staff members. And there was also a story — did you hear this one? — about you making Kate Middleton cry?

Meghan: This I heard about.

Oprah: You heard about that. OK.

Meghan: This was . . . that was . . . that was a turning point.

Oprah: That was a turning point?

Meghan: Yeah.

Kate made me cry days before wedding, but I got blamed… that was hard.

(Oprah narrates) Six months after Harry and Meghan’s wedding, headlines began to swirl about a rift between Meghan and her sister-in-law, the Duchess of Cambridge, Kate Middleton. It was reported that Meghan had left Kate “in tears” over the bride-to-be’s “strict demands” over flower-girl dresses.

Meghan: The narrative with Kate — which didn’t happen — was really, really difficult and something that . . . I think that’s when everything changed, really.

Oprah: You say the narrative with Kate, it didn’t happen. So, specifically, did you make Kate cry?

Meghan: No.

Oprah: So, where did that come from?

Meghan: (Sighs)

Oprah: Was there a situation where she might have cried? Or she could have cried?

Meghan: No, no. The reverse happened. And I don’t say that to be disparaging to anyone, because it was a really hard week of the wedding. And she was upset about something, but she owned it, and she apologised. And she brought me flowers and a note, apologising. And she did what I would do if I knew that I hurt someone, right, to just take accountability for it. What was shocking was . . . what was that, six, seven months after our wedding?

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: That the reverse of that would be out in the world.

Oprah: The story came out six, seven months after it actually happened?

Meghan: Yeah.

Oprah: So, when you say . . . 

Meghan: I would have never wanted that to come out about her ever, even though it had happened. I protected that from ever being out in the world.

Oprah: So, when you say the reverse happened, explain to us what you mean by that.

Meghan: A few days before the wedding, she was upset about something pertaining — yes, the issue was correct — about flower-girl dresses, and it made me cry, and it really hurt my feelings. And I thought, in the context of everything else that was going on in those days leading to the wedding, that it didn’t make sense to not be just doing whatever everyone else was doing, which was trying to be supportive, knowing what was going on with my dad and whatnot.

Oprah: This was a really big story at the time, that you made Kate cry. Now you’re saying you didn’t make Kate cry, Kate made you cry. So, we all want to know, what would make you cry? What . . . what were you going through? You were going through all of the anxiety that brides go through putting their wedding together and going through all of the issues with your father: Was he coming? Was he not coming?

Meghan: Mmm.

Oprah: And there was a confrontation over the . . . the dresses?

Meghan: It wasn’t a confrontation, and I actually don’t think it’s fair to her to get into the details of that, because she apologised.

Oprah: OK.

Meghan: And I’ve forgiven her.

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: What was hard to get over was being blamed for something that not only I didn’t do but that happened to me. And the people who were part of our wedding going to our comms team and saying, ‘I know this didn’t happen.’ I don’t have to tell them what actually happened.

Oprah: OK.

Meghan: But I can at least go on the record and say she didn’t make her cry. And they were all told the same . . . 

Oprah: So, all the time the stories were out that you had made Kate cry . . . you knew all along, and people around you knew that that wasn’t true?

Meghan: Everyone in the institution knew it wasn’t true.

Oprah: So, why didn’t somebody just say that?

Meghan: That’s a good question.

Oprah: Hmm.

Meghan: I’m not sharing that piece about Kate in any way to be disparaging to her. I think it’s really important for people to understand the truth.

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: But also I think, a lot of it, that was fed into by the media. And I would hope that she would have wanted that corrected, and maybe in the same way that the Palace wouldn’t let anybody else.

Oprah: Yeah.

Meghan: Negate it, they wouldn’t let her, because she’s a good person. And I think so much of what I have seen play out is this idea of polarity, where if you love me, you don’t have to hate her. And if you love her, you don’t need to hate me.

Oprah: Mm-hmm. You know, there were several stories that compared headlines written about you to those written about Kate.

Meghan: Mmm.

Oprah: Since you don’t read things, let me tell you what was said.

Meghan: OK.

Oprah: There were stories where Kate was being praised for holding her baby bump.

Meghan: Oh, gosh, have I done it since we’ve been sitting down?

Oprah: Yes, you’ve been doing it the whole time.

Meghan: Probably. OK.

Oprah: Kate was praised for cradling her baby bump, and the headline about you doing the same thing said, ‘Meghan can’t keep hands off her baby bump for pride or vanity’.

Meghan: What does it have to do with pride or vanity?

Oprah: Well, I’m just — I’m just telling you about the stories, OK?

Meghan: OK, I hear you.

Oprah: Then there was a whole online piece about this: ‘Kate eating avocados to help with morning sickness’.

Meghan: (Laughs) I heard — OK, I heard about the avocado one.

Oprah: But you were eating avocados . . . 

Meghan: And fuelling murder, apparently.

Oprah: Wolfing down a fruit linked to water shortages, illegal deforestation and environmental devastation. There was, seems . . . there seems to be . . . there was a . . . 

Meghan: That’s a really loaded piece of toast. (Laughter) I mean . . . you have to laugh at a certain point, because it’s just ridiculous.

Oprah: That’s good: ‘That’s a loaded piece of toast.’ It’s about deforestation and . . . 

Meghan: Oh, man!

Oprah: Oh, wow! So, do you think there was a standard for Kate in general and a separate one for you? And if so, why?

Meghan: I don’t know why. I can see now what layers were at play.
Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: And, again, they really seemed to want a narrative of a hero and a villain.

Oprah: Yeah. You came in as the first mixed-race person to marry into the family, and did that concern you in being able to fit in?

Meghan: Mmm.

Oprah: And did that concern you in being able to fit in? Did you think about that at all?

Meghan: I thought about it because they made me think about it.

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: Right? But at the same time now, upon reflection, thank God all of those things were true. Thank God I had that life experience. Thank god I had known the value of working. My first job was when I was 13, at a frozen yoghurt shop called Humphrey Yogart.

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: I’ve always worked. I’ve always valued independence. I’ve always been outspoken, especially about women’s rights. I mean, that’s the sad irony of the last four years . . . is I’ve advocated for so long for women to use their voice, and then I was silent.

Oprah: Were you silent? Or were you silenced?

Meghan: The latter.

Oprah: So, how does that work? Were you told by the comms people, or the, I don’t know, the institution? Were you told to keep silent? How were you told to handle tabloids or gossip? Were you . . . were you told to say nothing?

Meghan: Everyone from . . . everyone in my world was given very clear directive, from the moment the world knew Harry and I were dating, to always say, ‘No comment’. That’s my friends, my mom and dad.

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: And we did.

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: I did anything they told me to do — of course I did, because it was also through the lens of, ‘And we’ll protect you’. So, even as things started to roll out in the media that I didn’t see — but my friends would call me and say, ‘Meg, this is really bad’ — because I didn’t see it, I’d go, ‘Don’t worry. I’m being protected’.

Oprah: Mmm.

Meghan: I believed that. And I think that was . . . that was really hard to reconcile because it was only . . . it was only once we were married and everything started to really worsen that I came to under-stand that not only was I not being protected, but they were willing to lie to protect other members of the family but they weren’t willing to tell the truth to protect me and my husband.

Oprah: So, are you saying you did not feel supported by the powers that be, be that The Firm, the monar-chy, all of them?

Meghan: It’s hard for people to distinguish the two because there’s . . . it’s a family business, right?

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: So, there’s the family, and then there’s the people that are running the institution. Those are two separate things. And it’s important to be able to compartmentalise that, because the Queen, for example, has always been wonderful to me. I mean, we had one of our first joint engagements together. She asked me to join her, and I . . . 

Oprah: Was this on the train?

Meghan: Yeah, on the train.

Oprah: Yeah.

Meghan: We had breakfast together that morning, and she’d given me a beautiful gift, and I just really loved being in her company. And I remember we were in the car . . . 

Oprah: Can you share what the gift was? Or . . . 

Meghan: Yes. She gave me beautiful pearl earrings and a matching necklace. And we were in the car going between engagements, and she has a blanket that sits across her knees for warmth. And it was chilly, and she was like, ‘Meghan, come on’ and put it over my knees as well.

Oprah: Oh, nice.

Meghan: Right. Just moments of . . . and it made me think of my grand-mother, where she’s always been warm and inviting and . . . and really welcoming.

Oprah: So, OK, so she made you feel welcomed?

Meghan: Yes.

Oprah: Did you feel welcomed by everyone? It seemed like you and Kate . . . at the Wimbledon game where you were going to watch a friend play tennis . . . 

Meghan: (Laughs)

Oprah: Was it what it looked like? You are two sisters-in-law out there in the world, getting to know each other. Was she helping you, embracing you into the family, helping you adjust?

Meghan: I think everyone welcomed me.

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: And, yeah, when you say, ‘Was it what it looked like?’, my under-standing and my experience of the past four years is it’s nothing like what it looks like. It’s nothing like what it looks like. And I . . . and I remember so often people within The Firm would say, ‘Well, you can’t do this because it’ll look like that. You can’t’. So, even, ‘Can I go and have lunch with my friends?’ ‘No, no, no, you’re oversaturated, you’re every-where, it would be best for you to not go out to lunch with your friends’. I go, ‘Well, I haven’t . . . I haven’t left the house in months’.

I mean, there was a day that one of the members of the family, she came over, and she said, ‘Why don’t you just lay low for a little while, because you are everywhere right now’. And I said, ‘I’ve left the house twice in four months. I’m everywhere, but I am nowhere’. And from that standpoint, I continued to say to people, ‘I know there’s an obsession with how things look, but has anyone talked about how it feels? Because right now, I could not feel lonelier’.

Oprah: Hmm. You were feeling lonely, even though your prince . . . you’re in love, you’re with him.

Meghan: I’m not lonely . . . I wasn’t lonely with him.

Oprah: Yeah.

Meghan: There were moments that he had to work or he had to go away, there’s moments in the middle of the night. And so, there was very little that I was allowed to do.

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: And so, yeah, of course that breeds loneliness when you’ve come from such a full life or when you’ve come from freedom. I think the easiest way that now people can understand it is what we’ve all gone through in lockdown.

Oprah: Yeah, well, everybody can certainly relate now.

(Cuts to footage of interview with ITV’s Tom Bradby in South Africa in October, 2019)

Meghan: . . . asked if I’m OK, but it’s a very real thing to be going through behind the scenes.

Bradby: And the answer is, would it be fair to say, ‘Not really OK’, as in it’s really been a struggle?

Meghan: Yes.

(Back to Oprah)

Oprah: Well, I would have to say, in South Africa, when the reporter stopped and asked, ‘Are you OK . . ?’

Meghan: Mmm.

Oprah: And, whooo, we all felt that. Why did that question strike such a nerve? What was going on with you, internally at that time?

Meghan: That was the last day of the tour. You know, those tours are . . . I’m sure they have beautiful pictures and it looks vibrant, and all of that is true. It’s also really exhausting. So, I was fried, and I think it just hit me so hard because we were making it look like every-thing was fine. I can understand why people were really surprised to see that there was pain there.

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: Because we were doing our job. Our job was to be on and to smile. And so, when he asked me that, I guess I had felt that it had never occurred to anyone that I, that I wasn’t OK, and that I had really been suffering. And I had known for a long time and had been asking the institution for help for quite a long time.

Oprah: Help for what?

Meghan: After we had gotten back from our Australia tour — which was about a year before that — and we talked about when things really started to turn, when I knew we weren’t being protected. And it was during that part of my pregnancy, especially, that I started to understand what our continued reality was going to look like.

Oprah: What kind of protection did you want that you feel you didn’t receive?

Meghan: I mean, they would go on the record and negate the most ridiculous story for anyone, right? I’m talking about things that are super-artificial and inconsequential. But the narrative about, you know, making Kate cry, I think was the beginning of a real character assassination. And they knew it wasn’t true. And I thought, well, if they’re not going to kill things like that, then what are we going to do?

It had never occurred to anyone that I wasn’t OK…I was really suffering, and asked for help.

Meghan: Separate from that, and what was happening behind closed doors was, you know, we knew I was pregnant. We now know it’s Archie, and it was a boy. We didn’t know any of that at the time. We can just talk about it as Archie now. And that was when they were saying they didn’t want him to be a prince or a princess — not knowing what the gender would be, which would be different from protocol — and that he wasn’t going to receive security.

Oprah: What?

Meghan: It was really hard.

Oprah: What do you mean?

Meghan: He wasn’t going to receive security. This went on for the last few months of our pregnancy, where I’m going, ‘Hold on a second’.

Oprah: That your son — and Harry, Prince Harry’s son was not going to receive security?

Meghan: That’s right, I know.

Oprah: How . . . but how does that work?

Meghan: How does that work? It’s like, ‘No, no, no. Look, because if he’s not going to be a prince, it’s like, OK, well, he needs to be safe, so we’re not saying don’t make him a prince or a princess — whatever it’s going to be . . .
‘But if you’re saying the title is what’s going to affect their protec-tion, we haven’t created this monster machine around us in terms of clickbait and tabloid fodder. You’ve allowed that to happen, which means our son needs to be safe’.

Oprah: So, how do they explain to you that your son, the grandson, the great-grandson of the Queen . . . 

Meghan: Mm-hmm.

Oprah: . . . is not going to have . . . he wasn’t going to be a prince? How did they tell you that? And what reasons did they give? And then say, ‘And so, therefore, you’re not . . . you don’t need protection’.

Meghan: There’s no explanation.

Oprah: Hmm.

Meghan: There’s no version. I mean, that’s the other piece of that . . . 

Oprah: Who tells you that?

Meghan: I heard a lot of it through Harry and then other parts of it through conversations with . . . 

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: . . . family members. And it was a decision that they felt was appropriate. And I thought, well . . . 

Oprah: Was the title . . . was him being called a prince, Archie being called a prince, was that important to you?

Meghan: If it meant he was going to be safe, then, of course. All the grandeur surrounding this stuff is an attachment that I don’t personally have, right? I’ve been a waitress, an actress, a princess, a duchess. I’ve always just still been Meghan, right? So, for me, I’m clear on who I am, independent of all that stuff. And the most important title I will ever have is Mom. I know that.

Meghan: But the idea of our son not being safe, and also the idea of the first member of colour in this family not being titled in the same way that other grandchildren would be . . . You know, the other piece of that conversation is, there’s a convention — I forget if it was George V or George VI convention — that when you’re the grandchild of the monarch, so when Harry’s dad becomes king, automatically Archie and our next baby would become prince or princess, or whatever they were going to be.

Oprah: So, for you, it’s about protection and safety, not so much as what the . . . what the title means to the world.

Meghan: That’s a huge piece of it, but, I mean, but . . . 

Oprah: . . . and that having the title gives you the safety and protection?

Meghan: Yeah, but also it’s not their right to take it away.

Oprah: Yeah.

Meghan: Right? And so, I think even with that convention I’m talking about, while I was pregnant, they said they want to change the convention for Archie.

Oprah: Mmm.

Meghan: Well, why?

Oprah: Did you get an answer?

Meghan: No.

Oprah: You still don’t have an answer?

Meghan: No.

Oprah: You know, we had heard — the world, those of us out here reading the things or hearing the things — that it was you and Harry who didn’t want Archie to have a prince title. So, you’re telling me that is not true?

Meghan: No, and it’s not our decision to make, right?

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: . . . even though I have a lot of clarity on what comes with the titles, good and bad — and from my experience, a lot of pain.

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: I, again, wouldn’t wish pain on my child, but that is their birthright to then make a choice about.

Oprah: OK, so it feels to me like things started to change when you and Harry decided that you were not going to take the picture that had been a part of the tradition for years and . . . 

Meghan: We weren’t asked to take a picture. That’s also part of the spin, that was really damaging. I thought, ‘Can you just tell them the truth? Can you say to the world you’re not giving him a title, and we want to keep him safe, and that if he’s not a prince, then it’s not part of the tradition? Just tell people, and then they’ll understand?’

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: But they wouldn’t do that.

Oprah: But you were . . . you both, obviously, were aware that ha­d been a part of the tradition? And there was a . . . was there a specific reason why you didn’t want to be a part of that tradition? I think many people interpreted that as you were both saying, ‘We’re going to do things our way. We’re going to do things a different way’.

Meghan: That’s not it at all. I mean, I think what was really hard . . . so, picture, now that you know what was going on behind the scenes, right? There was a lot of fear surrounding it. I was very scared of having to offer up our baby, knowing that they weren’t going to be kept safe.

Oprah: You certainly must have had some conversations with Harry about it and have your own suspicions as to why they didn’t want to make Archie a prince. What are . . . what are those thoughts? Why do you think that is? Do you think it’s because of his race?

Meghan: (Sighs)

Oprah: And I know that’s a loaded question, but . . . 

Meghan: But I can give you an honest answer. In those months when I was pregnant, all around this same time . . . so we have in tandem the conversation of ‘He won’t be given security, he’s not going to be given a title’ and also concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he’s born.

Oprah: What?

Meghan: And . . . 

Oprah: Who . . . who is having that conversation with you? What?

Meghan: So . . . 

Oprah: There is a conversation . . . hold on. Hold up. Hold up. Stop right now.

Meghan: There were . . . there were several conversations about it.

Oprah: There’s a conversation with you . . ? 

Meghan: With Harry.

Oprah: About how dark your baby is going to be?

Meghan: Potentially, and what that would mean or look like.

Oprah: Whoo. And you’re not going to tell me who had the conversation?

Meghan: I think that would be very damaging to them.

Oprah: OK. So, how . . . how does one have that meeting?

There were conversations …about no security, no title… and how dark his skin might be when he’s born.

Meghan: That was relayed to me from Harry. Those were conversations that family had with him. And I think . . . 

Oprah: Whoa.

Meghan: It was really hard to be able to see those as compartmentalised conversations.

Oprah: Because they were concerned that if he were too brown, that that would be a problem? Are you saying that?

Meghan: I wasn’t able to follow up with why, but that — if that’s the assumption you’re making, I think that feels like a pretty safe one, which was really hard to understand, right? Especially when — look, I — the Commonwealth is a huge part of the monarchy, and I lived in Canada, which is a Commonwealth country, for seven years. But it wasn’t until Harry and I were together that we started to travel through the Commonwealth, I would say 60 per cent, 70 per cent of which is people of colour, right?

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: And growing up as a woman of colour, as a little girl of colour, I know how important representation is. I know how you want to see someone who looks like you in certain positions.

Oprah: Obviously.

Meghan: Even Archie. Like, we read these books, and now he’s been — there’s one line in one that goes, ‘If you can see it, you can be it’. And he goes, ‘You can be it!’ And I think about that so often, especially in the context of these young girls, but even grown women and men who, when I would meet them in our time in the Commonwealth, how much it meant to them to be able to see someone who looks like them . . . 

Oprah: Mmm.

Meghan: . . . in this position. And I could never understand how it wouldn’t be seen as an added benefit . . . 

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: . . . and a reflection of the world today. At all times, but especially right now, to go — ‘how inclusive is that, that you can see someone who looks like you in this family, much less one who’s born into it?’

(Oprah narrates) When Meghan joined the Royal Family in 2018, she became the target of unrelenting, pervasive attacks. Racist abuse online aimed at Meghan Markle. There were undeniable racist overtones. This stands apart from the kind of coverage we’ve seen of any other royal.

There was constant criticism, blatant sexist and racist remarks by British tabloids and internet trolls. We have seen the racism towards her play out in real time. Referring to her as ‘straight outta Compton’. The daily onslaught of vitriol and condemnation from the UK Press became overwhelming and, in Meghan’s words, ‘almost unsurvivable’. (Back to Oprah)

Oprah: You’d said in a podcast that it became ‘almost unsurvivable’, and that struck me, because it sounds like you were in some kind of mental trouble. What was actually going on? ‘Almost unsurvivable’ sounds like there was a breaking point.

Meghan: Yeah, there was. I just didn’t see a solution. I would sit up at night, and I was just, like, I don’t understand how all of this is being churned out. And, again, I wasn’t seeing it, but it’s almost worse when you feel it through the expression of my mom or my friends, or them calling me crying, just, like, ‘Meg, they’re not protecting you’. And I realised that it was all happening just because I was breathing.

Oprah: Mmm.

Meghan: And, look, I was really ashamed to say it at the time and ashamed to have to admit it to Harry, especially, because I know how much loss he’s suffered. But I knew that if I didn’t say it, that I would do it. And I . . . I just didn’t . . . I just didn’t want to be alive any more. And that was a very clear and real and frightening constant thought. And I remember — I remember how he just cradled me. And I was — I went to the institution, and I said that I needed to go somewhere to get help. I said that, ‘I’ve never felt this way before, and I need to go somewhere’. And I was told that I couldn’t, that it wouldn’t be good for the institution. And I called . . . 

Oprah: So the institution is never a person. Or is it a series of people?

Meghan: No, it’s a person.

Oprah: It’s a person.

Meghan: It’s several people. But I went to one of the most senior people just to . . . to get help. And that — you know, I share this, because there’s so many people who are afraid to voice that they need help. And I know, personally, how hard it is to not just voice it, but when you voice it, to be told no.

Oprah: Whoo.

Meghan: And so, I went to human resources, and I said, ‘I just really — I need help’. Because in my old job, there was a union, and they would protect me. And I remember this conversation like it was yesterday, because they said, ‘My heart goes out to you, because I see how bad it is, but there’s nothing we can do to protect you because you’re not a paid employee of the institution’.

Oprah: Mmm.

Meghan: This wasn’t a choice. This was emails and begging for help, saying very specifically, ‘I am concerned for my mental welfare’. And people going, ‘Oh, yes, yes, it’s disproportionately terrible what we see out there to anyone else’. But nothing was ever done, so we had to find a solution.

Oprah: Wow! ‘I don’t want to be alive any more,’ that’s . . . 

Meghan: I thought it would have solved everything for everyone, right?

Oprah: So, were you thinking of harming yourself? Were you having suicidal thoughts?

Meghan: Yes. This was very, very clear.

Oprah: Wow.

Meghan: Very clear and very scary. And, you know, I didn’t know who to even turn to in that. And one of the people that I reached out to, who’s continued to be a friend and confidant, was one of my husband’s mom’s best friends, one of Diana’s best friends. Because it’s, like, who else could understand what’s . . .what it’s actually like on the inside?

Oprah: Did you ever think about going to a hospital? Or is that possible, that you can check yourself in some place?

Meghan: No, that’s what I was asking to do.

Oprah: Yeah.

Meghan: You can’t just do that. I couldn’t, you know, call an Uber to the palace.

Oprah: Yeah.

Meghan: You couldn’t just go. You couldn’t. I mean, you have to understand, as well, when I joined that family, that was the last time, until we came here, that I saw my passport, my driver’s licence, my keys. All that gets turned over. I didn’t see any of that any more.

Oprah: Well, the way you’re describing this, it . . . it’s like you were trapped and couldn’t get help, even though you’re on the verge of suicide. That’s what you are describing. That’s what I’m hearing.

Meghan: Yes.

Oprah: And that would be an accurate interpretation, yes?

Meghan: That’s the truth.

Oprah: That’s the truth.

Meghan: You know, and if you think about . . . it was one of the things that . . . it stills haunts me is this photograph that someone had sent me. We had to go to an official event. We had to go to this event at the Royal Albert Hall, and a friend said, ‘I know you don’t look at pictures, but, oh, my God, you guys look so great . . .’

Oprah: Yeah.

Meghan: . . . and sent it to me. And I zoomed in, and what I saw was the truth of what that moment was, because right before we had to leave for that, I had just had that conversation with Harry that morning, and it was the next day that I talked to the institution.

Oprah: You had the conversation ‘I don’t want to be alive any more’?

Meghan: Yeah.

Oprah: Whoo.

Meghan: No, and it was . . . it wasn’t even, ‘I don’t want to’.

Oprah: And then, you . . ? 

Meghan: It was like, ‘These are the thoughts that I’m having in the middle of the night that are very clear . . .’

Oprah: Yes, clarification.

Meghan: ‘. . . and I’m scared, because this is very real. This isn’t some abstract idea. This is methodical, and this is not who I am’. But we had to go to this event, and I remember him saying, ‘I don’t think you can go’. And I said, ‘I can’t be left alone’.

Oprah: Because you were afraid of what you might do to yourself?

Meghan: And we went, and that . . . 

Oprah: I’m so sorry to hear that.

Meghan: . . . and that picture, if you zoom in, what I see is how tightly his knuckles are gripped around mine. You can see the whites of our knuckles, because we are smiling and doing our job, but we’re both just trying to hold on. And every time that those lights went down in that Royal Box, I was just weeping, and he was gripping my hand.

Oprah: Wow.

Meghan: And then, it was, ‘OK, intermission’s coming, the lights are about to come on, everyone’s looking at us again’, and you have to just be on again.

Oprah: Yeah.

Meghan: And that’s, I think, so important for people to remember is you have no idea what’s going on for someone behind closed doors. You have no idea. Even the people that smile the biggest smiles and shine the brightest lights, it seems, to have compassion for what’s actually potentially going on.

Oprah: I know. The public is looking at you. And to think that you, earlier in the day, had said to Harry that you didn’t want to be alive any more.

Meghan: Yeah. And just hours before, just sitting on the . . . the steps in our cottage . . . 

Oprah: Mmm.

Meghan: . . . just sitting there and then going, ‘ok, well, go upstairs and put your make-up bag in your sink and try to pull yourself together’.

Oprah: Nobody should have to go through that.

Meghan: And, you know, Harry and I are working on this mental health series for Apple, and we — yes, so — we, we, we hear a lot of these stories. Nobody should have to go through that. It takes so much courage to admit that you need help.

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: It takes so much courage to voice that. And as I said, I was ashamed. I’m supposed to be stronger than that.

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: I don’t want to put more on my husband’s shoulders. He’s carrying the weight of the world. I don’t want to bring that to him. I bring solutions. To admit that you need help, to admit how dark of a place you’re in.

Oprah: You’ve said some pretty shocking things here, revealing . . . 

Meghan: I wasn’t planning to say anything shocking.

Oprah: OK.

Meghan: I’m just telling you what’s happened.

Oprah: OK.

Meghan: I’m sorry if it’s shocked you! It’s been a lot.

Oprah: I’m a little shocked.

Meghan: It’s been a lot.

Oprah: How do you feel about the palace hearing you speak your truth today? Are you afraid of a backlash or their reaction?

Meghan: I mean, I think I’m not going to live my life in fear. You know, I think so much of it is said with an understanding of just truth.

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: But I think, to answer your question, I don’t know how they could expect that after all of this time, we would still just be silent if there is an active role that The Firm is playing in perpetuating falsehoods about us.

Oprah: Mmm.

Meghan: That at a certain point, you’re going to go, ‘But, you guys, someone just tell the truth’. And if that comes with risk of losing things, I mean, I’ve lost . . . there’s a lot that’s been lost already.

Oprah: Mmm.

Meghan: And I grieve a lot. I mean, I’ve lost my father. I lost a baby. I nearly lost my name. I mean, there’s the loss of identity. But I’m still standing, and my hope for people in the takeaway from this is to know that there’s another side.

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: To know that life is worth living.

Oprah: OK. I’m so glad you see that now. We are going to take a break, y’all, and Harry’s going to join us.

Meghan: (Laughter)

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Oprah: So, hi.

Harry: Hello.

Oprah: Thanks for joining us.

Harry: Thanks for having me.

Oprah: You’ve been watching on the side, yeah?

Harry: Some of it.

Oprah: Yes. I want to say, first of all, let’s say congratulations . . . 

Harry: Thank you.

Oprah: . . . for the new addition to your family. Meghan said she wanted to wait until you were here to tell us, is it a boy or is it a girl?

Meghan: You can tell her.

Harry: No, go for it.

Meghan: No, no.

Harry: It’s a girl.

Oprah: (Squeals)

Meghan: It’s a girl.

Harry: Yes!

Oprah: You’re going to have a daughter. Wow.

Meghan: It’s a girl.

Oprah: When you realised that and saw it on the ultrasound, what . . . what . . . what was your first thought?

Harry: Amazing. Just grateful, like any — to have any child, any one or any two would have been amazing. But to have a boy and then a girl, you know, what more can you ask for? But now, you know, now we — we’ve got our family. We’ve got, you know, the four of us and our two dogs, and it’s great.

Oprah: Done. Done? Two is it?

Harry: Done.

Meghan: Two is it.

Oprah: Two is it.

Meghan: Two is it.

Oprah: And when’s the baby due?

Meghan: In summertime.

Oprah: This summertime?

Meghan: Yeah.

Oprah: So, you all have been living in sunny California now for . . . 

Meghan: Since March.

Oprah: Since March, OK.

(Oprah narrates) In late 2019, Prince Harry and Meghan left the UK And moved to Canada. The couple says they chose Canada, a commonwealth of Britain, with the intention of continuing to serve the Queen. After their move, Harry and Meghan say security normally provided by the Royal Family was cut off. By March 2020, just days before the Covid lockdown began, Meghan, Harry and Archie relocated to Los Angeles, where media mogul Tyler Perry offered them his home as a temporary refuge. He also provided security.

Three months later they bought their own home and settled in the Santa Barbara area. Last spring, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex created their own foundation and media content company called Archewell.

Oprah: And so you stayed at Tyler Perry’s house for several months.

Harry: Three months, I believe.

Meghan: Yeah, because we didn’t have a plan. We needed . . . we needed a house and he offered security as well, so it gave us breathing room to try to figure out what we are going to do.

Harry: The biggest concern was that while we were in Canada, in someone else’s house, I then got told at short notice security was going to be removed. By this point, courtesy of the Daily Mail, the world knew exact . . . our exact location. So suddenly it dawned on me, ‘Hang on a second. The borders could be closed. We’re going to have our security removed. Who knows how long lockdown’s going to be? The world knows where we are. It’s not safe. It’s not secure’.

Meghan: Well, and also . . . 

Harry: We probably need to get out of here.

Oprah: So, what security did you have at the time that was going to be removed?

Harry: We had our UK security.

Oprah: So you got word from overseas?

Harry: Yeah.

Oprah: That ‘we’re taking away your security’. Why were they doing that?

Harry: Their justification is a change in status, of which I pushed back and said, ‘Well, is there a change of threat or risk?’ And after many weeks of waiting, eventually I got the confirmation that no, the risk and threat hasn’t changed but due to our change of status, (by) which we would no longer be official working members of the Royal Family, they’re obviously . . . what we proposed was sort of part-time, or at least as much as we could do without being fully consumed because of, I think, what most of you guys have covered already.

Meghan: We actually didn’t talk about that. It’s been so spun in the wrong direction, as though we quit, we walked away, we . . . all the conversations of the two years before we finally announced it.

(Oprah narrates) In January 2020, Prince Harry and Meghan announced they would step back as senior members of the Royal Family. The swiftness with which they’ve taken this decision, only 18 months after they got married, has taken everyone by surprise, from the Queen all the way down.

The bombshell news sparked a worldwide media frenzy dubbed ‘Megxit’ by the British Press. Many reporters and viral posts blamed Meghan for the decision. In an official statement, Queen Elizabeth said: ‘Although we would have preferred them to remain full-time working members of the Royal Family, we respect and understand their wish to live a more independent life as a family while remaining a valued part of my family.’ (Back to Oprah)

Oprah: OK, let me ask the question.

Meghan: Yeah?

Oprah: So, over a year ago, you shocked the world. You announced you were stepping back as senior members of the Royal Family. And then the media reported that you had ‘blindsided’ the Queen, your grandmother. So here’s a time to set the record straight. What was the tipping point that made you decide you had to leave?

Harry: Yeah, it was desperate. I went to all the places which I thought I should go to, to ask for help. We both did.

Meghan: Mm-hmm.

Harry: Separately and together.

Oprah: So you left because you were asking for help and couldn’t get it?

Harry: Yeah, basically. But we never left.

Meghan: We never left the family and we only wanted to have the same type of role that exists, right? There’s senior members of the family and then there are non-senior members. And we said, specifically, ‘We’re stepping back from senior roles to be just like several . . .’ I mean, I can think of so many right now who are all . . . they’re royal highnesses, prince or princess, duke or duchess . . . who earn a living, live on palace grounds, can support the Queen if and when called upon. So we weren’t reinventing the wheel here. We were saying, ‘OK, if this isn’t working for everyone, we’re in a lot of pain, you can’t provide us with the help we need, we can just take a step back. We can do it in a Commonwealth country’. We suggested New Zealand, South Africa . . . 

Harry: Take a breath.

Meghan: Canada.

Oprah: Yeah. And you wanted to take a breath from what specifically? Let’s be clear.

Harry: From this . . . this constant barrage. My biggest concern was history repeating itself and I’ve said that before on numerous occasions, very publicly. And what I was seeing was history repeating itself. But more, perhaps. Or definitely far more dangerous because then you add race in and you add social media in. And when I’m talking about history repeating itself, I’m talking about my . . . my mother.

Harry: When you can see something happening in the same kind of way, anybody would ask for help, ask the system of which you are a part of — especially when you know there’s a relationship there — that they could help and share some truth or call . . . call the dogs off, whatever you want to call it. So to receive no help at all and to be told continuously, ‘This is how it is. This is just how it is. We’ve all been through it’ . . . and I think the biggest turning point for me was the . . . and it didn’t take very long. It was actually right at the beginning . . . was, OK, this union . . . us, me, being . . . having a girlfriend was going to be a thing. Of course it was. But I . . . I never expected, or I never thought . . . 

Oprah: Because she was mixed race?

Harry: No, just . . . just the two of us to start with. I hadn’t really thought about the mixed-race piece because I thought, well . . . well, firstly, you know, I’ve spent many years doing the work and doing my own learning. But my upbringing in the system, of which I was brought up in and what I’ve been exposed to, it wasn’t . . . I wasn’t aware of it to start with. But, my god, it doesn’t take very long to suddenly become aware of it.

Oprah: Yeah, because you said you really weren’t aware of unconscious bias and all that that represents . . . 

Harry: No.

Oprah: Until you met Meghan.

Harry: Yeah. You know, as sad as it is to say, it takes living in her shoes — in this instance, for a day, or those first eight days — to see where it was going to go and how far they were going to take it.

Oprah: And get away with it?

Harry: And get away with it and be so blatant about it. That’s the bit that shocked me. This is . . . we’re talking about the UK Press here, right? And this . . . the UK is my home. That is . . . that is where I was brought up. So yes, I’ve got my own relationship that goes back a long way with the media. I asked for calm from the British tabloids — once as a boyfriend, once as a husband and once as a father.

Oprah: So when I ask the question, ‘Why did you leave?’ the simplest answer is . . ? 

Harry: Lack of support and lack of understanding.

Oprah: So, I want clarity. Was the move about getting away from the UK Press? Because the Press, as you know, is everywhere. Or was the move because you weren’t getting enough support from The Firm?

Harry: It was both.

Oprah: Both.

Harry: Yeah.

Oprah: Did you blindside the Queen?

Harry: No. I’ve never blindsided my grandmother. I have too much respect for her.

Oprah: So where did that story come from?

Harry: I hazard a guess that it probably could have come from within the institution.

Oprah: Mmm.

Meghan: So, I remember when you talked to her several times about this over . . . 

Harry: Two years.

Meghan: Two years. But even the night before, days before, with the statement coming out, I remember that conversation.

Oprah: So, how do you know she wasn’t blindsided? Because the way it was presented through the Press is that suddenly you made this announcement. She didn’t know it was coming.

Harry: No, I . . . when we were in Canada, I had three conversations with my grandmother and two conversations with my father and — before he stopped taking my calls — and he said, ‘Can you put this all in writing what your plan is?’

Oprah: Your father asked you to put it in writing.

Prince Harry: Yeah. He asked me to put it in writing and I put all the specifics in there, even the fact that we were planning on putting the announcement out on January 7.

Oprah: So you just said that your dad stopped taking your calls. Why did he stop taking your calls?

Harry: Because I took matters in . . . by that point, I took matters into my own hands. It was like, ‘I need to do this for my family. This is not a surprise to anybody. It’s really sad that it’s gotten to this point but I’ve got to do something for my own mental health, my wife’s and for Archie’s as well’. Because I could see where this was headed.

Meghan: To have sat back and not said that for so long, it just feels really . . . 

Oprah: To have been silenced all this time.

Meghan: Yeah.

Harry: Been three and a half, four years. Or longer, actually.

Meghan: We were saying . . . gosh, it must have been years ago we were sitting in Nottingham (Nottingham Cottage, where Harry lived as a bachelor and when first married) . . . I was sitting in Nottingham Cottage and The Little Mermaid came on. Now, who watches . . . who as an adult really watches The Little Mermaid? But it came on and I was like, ‘Well, I’m just here all the time, so I may as well watch this’. And I went, ‘Oh, my god! She falls in love with the prince and because of that, she has to lose her voice’.

Oprah: Mmm.

Meghan: But by the end, she gets her voice back.

Oprah: Gets her voice back.

Meghan: Yeah.

Oprah: And this is what happened here? You feel like you got your voice back?

Meghan: Yeah.

Oprah: So, you . . . you’re stepping back out of frustration and you just need to get out. And, you know, you heard Meghan share with us all . . . 

Harry: Mm-hmm.

Oprah: The moment that she came to you, had the courage enough to say out loud . . . 

Harry: Mm-hmm.

My father said: Can you put your plan in writing? Then he stopped taking my calls. I’d taken matters into my own hands.

Oprah: ‘I don’t want to live any more.’

Harry: Mm-hmm.

Oprah: And you didn’t know what to do?

Harry: I had no idea what to do. I wasn’t . . . I wasn’t prepared for that. I went . . . I went to a very dark place as well. But I . . . I wanted to be there for her and . . . 

Meghan: Also, we didn’t leave right that minute, right?

Harry: I was terrified.

Meghan: We still . . . that’s almost a year after.

Oprah: So then did you tell other people in the family, ‘I have to get help for her. We need help for her’?

Harry: No. That’s just not a conversation that would be had.

Oprah: Why?

Harry: I guess I was ashamed of admitting it to them.

Oprah: Oh.

Harry: And I don’t know whether . . . I don’t know whether they’ve had the same . . . whether they’ve had the same feelings or thoughts. I have no idea. And it’s a very trapping environment that a lot of them are stuck in.

Oprah: You were ashamed of admitting that Meghan needed help?

Harry: Yeah.

Oprah: Mmm.

Harry: I didn’t have anyone to turn to.

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Harry: You know, we’ve got some very close friends that . . . that have been with us through this whole process but for the family, they very much have this mentality of, ‘This is just how it is. This is how it’s meant to be. You can’t change it. We’ve all been through it’.

Oprah: ‘We’ve all been through the pressure. We’ve all been through being exploited’?

Harry: Yes. But what was different for me was the race element, because now it wasn’t just about her, but it is about what she represents. And therefore it wasn’t just affecting my wife. It was affecting so many other people as well. And that’s . . . that was the trigger for me to really engage in those conversations with Palace . . . senior Palace staff and with my family to say, ‘Guys, this is not going to end well’.

Oprah: And when you say ‘end well’, what did you mean?

Harry: For anyone it’s not going to end well. Because the way that I saw it was there was a way of doing things but for us — for this union and the specifics around her race — there was an opportunity, many opportunities, for my family to show some public support.

Oprah: Mmm.

Harry: And I guess one of the most telling parts — and the saddest parts, I guess — was over 70 Members of Parliament, female Members of Parliament, both Conservative and Labour — came out and called out the . . . the colonial undertones of articles and headlines written about

Meghan. Yet no one from my family ever said anything over those three years. And that . . . that hurts. But I also am acutely aware of where my family stand and how scared they are of the tabloids turning on them.

Oprah: Turning on them for what? They’re the Royal Family.

Harry: Yes, but it’s . . . there is this invisible . . . what’s termed or referred to as the ‘invisible contract’ behind closed doors between the institution and the tabloids, the UK tabloids.

Oprah: How so?

Harry: Well, it is . . . to simplify it, it’s a case of if you . . . if you as a family member are willing to wine, dine and give full access to these reporters, then you will get better press.

Oprah: What do you care about better press if you’re royal?

Harry: I think everyone needs to have some compassion for . . . for them in that situation, right? There is a level of control by fear that has existed for generations. I mean, generations.

Oprah: But who’s controlling whom? It’s the institution. From our point of view, just the public. It’s . . . 

Harry: Yeah but the institution survives based on that, on that perception. So actually, if you don’t . . . 

Oprah: So you’re saying there’s this relationship that Meghan was speaking of . . . it’s like, symbiotic. One lives or thrives because the other exists.

Meghan: Mmm.

Oprah: That’s what you’re saying.

Harry: That’s the . . . that’s the idea.

Meghan: Well, see, I think there’s a reason that these tabloids have holiday parties at the Palace. They’re hosted by the Palace, the tabloids are. You know, there is a construct that’s at play there. And because from the beginning of our relationship, they were so attacking and inciting so much racism, really, it changed our . . . the risk level, because it went . . . it wasn’t just catty gossip. It was bringing out a part of people that was racist in how it was charged. And that changed the threat. That changed the level of death threats. That changed everything.

Oprah: So, tell me this: You said a moment ago, it hurts that your family has never acknowledged the role that racism played in here. Did you think she was well received in the beginning?

Harry: Yes. Far better than I expected. (Laughter) But, you know, my grandmother has been amazing throughout. You know, my father, my brother, Kate and . . . and all the rest of the family, they were, they were really welcoming. But it really changed after the Australia tour, after our South Pacific tour.

Meghan: That’s when we announced we were pregnant with Archie. That was our first tour.

Harry: But it was also . . . it was also the first time that the family got to see how incredible she is at the job. And that brought back memories.

Oprah: I’m thinking, because I watch The Crown OK? I watch The Crown. Do you all watch The Crown?

Meghan: (Laughs)

Harry:: I’ve watched some of it. You’ve watched some of it?

Meghan: I’ve watched some of it.

Oprah: But there’s this . . . I think it was the fourth season, actually, where there is an Australian tour. So, is that what you’re talking about? It brought back memories of that? The Australian tour.

Harry: Yeah.

Oprah: Where your father and your mother went there, and your mother was bedazzling. So, are you saying that there were hints of jealousy?

Harry: Look, I just wish that we would all learn from the past. But to see the . . . to see how effortless it was for Meghan to come into the family so quickly in Australia and across New Zealand, Fiji and Tonga, and just be able to connect with people in such a . . . 

Oprah: But . . . 

Harry: I know, I know, I know, I know. But it’s . . . 

Oprah: Why, I mean, why wouldn’t everybody love that? Isn’t that what you want? You want her to come into the family and to, as the Queen said at one point, the way that Meghan had basically, not her words, been assimilated into the family.

Harry: Yeah, I think, you know, as we talked about, she was very much welcomed into the family, not just by the family, but by the world.

Oprah: Yeah.

Harry: Certainly by the Commonwealth. I mean, here you have one of the greatest assets to the Commonwealth that the family could have ever wished for.

Oprah: I just can’t . . . I’m kind of going back to this. So, then, you’re in Canada because you had stepped back. Your Firm says you’re no longer going to have protection. So, did you ask for that? Because did you want . . . were you trying to have it both ways? You wanted to step back but also keep your foot in royal business, it seems.

Harry: It’s interesting that you talk about it being, you know, ‘Have it both ways’ on the . . . on the security element. I never thought that I would have my security removed, because I was born into this position. I inherited the risk. So that was a shock to me. That was what completely changed the whole plan.

Oprah: So, that you as Prince Harry are going to have your security removed.

Meghan: Yeah. And I even . . . and I even wrote letters to his family saying, ‘Please, it’s very clear the protection of me or Archie is not a priority. I accept that. That is fine. Please keep my husband safe. I see the death threats. I see the racist propaganda. Please keep him safe. Please don’t pull his security and announce to the world when he and we are most vulnerable’. And they said it’s just not possible.

Oprah: Mm-hmm. I think what we really have got to clear up here is because one of the stories that continues to live, either through rumours or social media, out in the world, is that you, Meghan, are the one who manipulated, calculated, and are responsible for this Megxit.

Meghan: Oh, my gosh. It’s amazing how they can use Meg for everything.

Oprah: Yes. There are even stories that you knew all along that this was going to happen. You went through the whole process, and it was all intentional to build your brand.

Meghan: Can you imagine how little sense that makes? I left my career, my life. I left everything because I love him, right? And our plan was to do this for ever.

Harry: Yes.

Meghan: Our plan . . . for me, I mean, I wrote letters to his family when I got there, saying, ‘I am dedicated to this. I’m here for you. Use me as you’d like’. There was no guidance, as well, right? There were certain things that you couldn’t do. But, you know, unlike what you see in the movies, there’s no class on how to . . . how to speak, how to cross your legs, how to be royal. There’s none of that training. That might exist for other members of the family. That was not something that was offered to me.

Oprah: So, nobody tells you anything?

Meghan: No.

Oprah: Nobody prepares you?

Meghan: Nobody even . . . 

Harry: There’s . . . 

Meghan: Sorry, but even down to, like, the National Anthem. No one thought to say, ‘Oh, you’re American. You’re not going to know that’. That’s me late at night, Googling how . . . what’s the National . . . I’ve got to learn this. I don’t want to embarrass them. I need to learn these 30 hymns for church. All of this is televised. We were doing the training behind the scenes, because I just wanted to make them proud.

Oprah: OK, but here’s the question: Do you think you would have left or ever stepped back were it not for Meghan?

Meghan: Hm.

Harry: No. The answer to your question is no.

Oprah: You would not have?

Harry: I wouldn’t have . . . I wouldn’t have been able to, because I myself was trapped as well. I didn’t see a way out.

Oprah: She felt trapped, you were trapped?

Harry: Yeah, I didn’t see a way out.

Oprah: But you’d this life, your whole life. This has been your life your whole life.

Harry: Yeah, but, you know, I was trapped, but I didn’t know I was trapped.

Oprah: Mmm.

Harry: But the moment that I met Meg, and then our worlds sort of collided in the most amazing of ways, and then to see how . . . 

Oprah: Please explain how you, Prince Harry, raised in a palace and a life of privilege — literally, a Prince . . . how you were trapped.

Harry: Trapped within the system, like the rest of my family are. My father and my brother, they are trapped. They don’t get to leave. And I have huge compassion for that.

Oprah: Well, OK, so the impression of the world — maybe it’s a false impression — is that, for all these years before Meghan, you were living your life as a royal, Prince Harry . . . the beloved Prince Harry and that you were enjoying that life. We didn’t get the impression that you were feeling trapped in that life.

Harry: Enjoying the life because there were photographs of me smiling while I was shaking hands and meeting people? Like, I’m sure you guys have covered some of that. That’s . . . that’s a part of the job. That’s a part of the role. That’s what’s expected. No matter who you are in the family, no matter what’s going on in your personal life, no matter what’s just happened, if the bikes roll up and the car rolls up, you’ve got to get dressed, you got to get in there. You wipe your tears away, shake off whatever you’re thinking about and you got to be on your A-game.

Oprah: Mm-hmm. What would you think your mum would say about this stepping back, this decision to step back from the Royal Family? How would she feel about this moment?

Harry: I think she would feel very angry with how this has panned out, and very sad. But, ultimately, she’d . . . all she’d . . . all she’d ever want is for us to be happy.

Oprah: You wanted freedom from . . . from that life? You wanted freedom to make your own money. You wanted freedom to make deals with Netflix and Spotify. But you also wanted to serve the Queen?

Harry: Yeah, we didn’t want to . . . we didn’t want to give up, or we didn’t want to turn our backs on the associations and the people that we . . . that we’ve been supporting.

Meghan: But also, Oprah, it exists.

Harry: Yeah, it exists. But, also, the Netflix and the Spotify, they’re all . . . that was never part of the plan.

Meghan: Yeah.

Oprah: Because you didn’t have a plan?

Meghan: We didn’t have a plan.

Harry: We didn’t have a plan. That was suggested by somebody else by the point of where my family literally cut me off financially, and I had to afford . . . afford security for us.

Oprah: Wait. Hold . . . hold up. Wait a minute. Your family cut you off?

Harry: Yeah, in the first half, the first quarter of 2020. But I’ve got what my mum left me, and, without that, we would not have been able to do this.

Oprah: OK.

Harry: So, you know, touching back on what you asked me, what my mum would think of this, I think she saw it coming. And I certainly felt her presence throughout this whole process. And, you know, for me, I’m . . . I’m just really relieved and happy to be sitting here talking to you with my wife by my side. Because I can’t begin to imagine what it must have been like for her going through this process by herself all those years ago, because it’s been unbelievably tough for the two of us, but at least we had each other.

Oprah: What’s your relationship like now with your family?

Harry: I’ve spoken more to my grandmother in the last year than I have done for many, many years.

Oprah: Do you all have Zoom calls?

Harry: We did a couple of Zoom calls with Archie.

Meghan: Sometimes, yes, so they can see Archie.

Oprah: Yeah.

Harry: My grandmother and I have a really good relationship . . . 

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Harry: . . . And an understanding. And I have a deep respect for her. She’s my Colonel-In-Chief, right? She always will be.

Oprah: Your relationship with your father? Is he taking your calls now?

Harry: Yeah. Yeah, he is. There’s a lot to work through there, you know? I feel really let down, because he’s been through something similar. He knows what pain feels like, and this is . . . and Archie’s his grandson. And . . . but, at the same time, you know, I, of course I will always . . . I will always love him, but there’s a lot of hurt that’s happened. And . . . and I will continue to . . . to make it one of my priorities to try and heal that relationship. And, but they only know what they know, and that’s the thing. I’ve tried to . . . 

Meghan: Or what they’re told.

Harry: Or what they’re told. And I’ve tried to educate them through the process that I have been educated.

Oprah: Because is it like being in a big royal bubble?

Harry: Yeah.

Oprah: Yeah. And your brother? Relationship? Much has been said about that.

Harry: Yeah, and much will continue to be said about that. You know, as I’ve said before, I love William to bits. He’s my brother. We’ve been through hell together. I mean, we have a shared experience. But we . . . you know, we’re on . . . we’re on different paths.

Oprah: Well, what is particularly striking is what Meghan shared with us earlier, is that no one wants to admit that there’s anything about race or that race has played a role in the trolling and the vitriol, and yet Meghan shared with us that there was a conversation with you about Archie’s skin tone.

Harry: Mm-hmm.

Oprah: What was that conversation?

Harry: That conversation I’m never going to share, but at the time . . . at the time, it was awkward. I was a bit shocked.

Oprah: Can you . . . can you tell us what the question was?

Harry: No. I don’t . . . I’m not comfortable with sharing that.

Oprah: OK.

Harry: But that was . . . that was right at the beginning, right?

Oprah: Like, what will the baby look like?

Harry: Yeah, what will the kids look like?

Oprah: What will the kids look like?

Harry: But that was right at the beginning, when she wasn’t going to get security, when members of my family were suggesting that she carries on acting, because there was not enough money to pay for her, and all this sort of stuff. Like, there was some real obvious signs before we even got married that this was going to be really hard.

Oprah: So, in conclusion, if you’d had the support, you’d still be there?

Harry: Without question.

Meghan: Yeah.

Harry: I’m sad that . . . that what’s happened has happened, but I know, and I’m comfortable in knowing, that we did everything that we could to make it work. And we did everything on the exit process the way that . . . the way that it should have been done.

Meghan: With as much respect.

Harry: With as much respect.

Meghan: And, oh, my God, we just did everything we could to . . . to protect them.

Oprah: So, what do you say to the people who say you came here, you made these multimillion-dollar deals and that you’re just money-grabbing royals?

Harry: First off, this was never the intention.

Oprah: Mm-hmm.

Meghan: Yeah.

Harry: And we’re certainly not complaining. We . . . our life is great now. We’ve got a beautiful house. We’ve got a beautiful . . . I’ve got a beautiful family. And the dogs . . . the dogs are really happy. But at the time, during Covid, the suggestion by a friend was, ‘What about streamers?’

Meghan: Yeah, we genuinely hadn’t thought about that before.

Harry: We hadn’t thought about it. So there were all sorts of different options. And, look, from my perspective, all I needed was enough money to be able to pay for security to keep my family safe.

Oprah: Mm. How will you use Archewell as a means of speaking to things that are important to you in the world?

Meghan: I think in creating . . . I mean, life is about storytelling, right? About the stories we tell ourselves, the stories we’re told, what we buy into. And . . . and for us to be able to have storytelling through a truthful lens, that hopefully is uplifting, is going to be great knowing how many people that can land with. And being able to give a voice to a lot of people that are under-represented and aren’t really heard.

Oprah: Any regrets?

Meghan: This morning, I woke up earlier than H and saw a note from someone on our team in the UK saying the Duke of Edinburgh had gone to the hospital.

Oprah: Yeah.

Meghan: But I just picked up the phone and I called the Queen just to check in.

Oprah: You check in?

Meghan: Just like, I would . . . you know . . . that’s what we do. It’s like, being able to default to not having to every moment go, ‘Is that appropriate?’

Oprah: Yeah.

Harry: For so many in my family, what they do is . . . there’s a level of control in it, right? Because they’re fearful of what the papers are going to say about them.

Oprah: Yeah.

Harry: Whereas with us, it was just, like, just be . . . just be yourself. Just be genuine. Just be authentic. Just go and do what it is. If you get it wrong, you get it wrong. If you get it right, you get it right.

(Oprah narrates) On February 19, 2021, Buckingham palace released a statement announcing it was agreed that Prince Harry and Meghan would not return as working members of the Royal Family. Harry and Meghan’s royal patronages and Prince Harry’s honorary military titles would be returned to the Queen. The Queen’s statement was released after our interview took place. (Back to Oprah)

Oprah: Your exit agreement with the Royal Family, it’s . . . that is coming up at the end of this month.

Harry: The decision is, I think. Yeah, I mean, the decision — what, as of last week, or whatever it was — is that they will be removing everything.

Oprah: Are you hurt by that decision?

Harry: I am hurt. But at the same time I completely respect my grandmother’s decision. I would still love for us to be able to continue to support those associations, albeit without the title or the role.

Oprah: Could you be as satisfied now, doing this through your own organisation, Archewell?

Meghan: Well, we . . . this is what we’re doing, right? We’re still doing it. We’re still going to always do the work. But I also think it’s important for you or everyone to know this decision that was made about patronages and all of that was before anyone knew that we were sitting down with you.

Harry: Yeah.

Meghan: I think that it’s . . . I can only imagine . . . 

Oprah: I heard a story that you’re getting punished now. Those were being taken away because you did sit down with me.

Meghan: Yeah, but that was . . . those letters, those conversations, that was . . . that was finalised before anyone even knew that we were going to sit down. So that’s just not true.

Oprah: All right, tell me this. Harry, what delights you now in your everyday experience and the things that you actually cherish in your life here with Archie and Meghan?

Harry: This year has been crazy for everybody. But to have outdoor space where I can go for walks with Archie, and we can go for walks as a family and with the dogs, and we can go on hikes — we’ll go down to the beach, which is so close — all of these things are just . . . I guess, the highlight for me is sticking him on the back of the bicycle in his little baby seat and taking him on these bike rides, which is something I was never able to do when I was young. I can see him on the back and he’s got his arms out and he’s like, ‘Whoo!’ chatting, chatting, chatting, going, ‘Palm tree! House!’ and all this sort of stuff. And I do . . . I think to myself . . . 

In some ways it’s just the beginning. Greater than any fairytale you’ve ever read…

Oprah: What’s his new favourite word? What’s his favourite word now?

Meghan: Oh my gosh, he’s on a roll. In the past couple weeks it has been hydrate, which is just hysterical.

Harry: But also, whenever everyone leaves the house, he’s like, ‘Drive safe’.

Meghan: ‘Drive safe’.

(Oprah laughs)

Harry: Which is really . . . 

Meghan: He’s not even two yet!

Oprah: You said that your brother was trapped. You said that you love your brother and always will love your brother. You didn’t tell me what the relationship is now, though.

Harry: The relationship is space at the moment. And, you know, time heals all things, hopefully.

Oprah: Any regrets?

Harry: No. I mean . . . no, I think we’ve done . . . I’m really proud of us, you know? I’m so proud of . . . I’m so proud of my wife. Like, she safely delivered Archie during a period of time which was so cruel and so mean. And every single day, I was coming back from work, from London, I was coming back to my wife crying while breastfeeding Archie. That’s coming from someone who wasn’t reading anything. And as she touched on earlier, if she had read anything, she wouldn’t be here now. So we did what we had to do — and now we’ve got another little one on the way.

Meghan: I have one. My regret is believing them when they said I would be protected. I believed that. And I regret believing that because I think, ‘had I really seen that that wasn’t happening, I would have been able to do more’. But I think I wasn’t supposed to see it. I wasn’t supposed to know. And . . . and now, because we’re actually on the other side, we’ve actually not just survived but are thriving. You know, this . . . I mean, this is miracles. I . . . yeah, I think that all of those things that I was hoping for have happened . . . and this is in some ways just the beginning for us. You know, we’ve been through a lot. It’s felt like a lifetime. (Laughs.) A lifetime.

Oprah: So, your story with the prince does have a happy ending?

Meghan: It does.

Harry: Yeah.

Meghan: Yeah. (Laughs.) It really did.

Oprah: It has a happy ending because you made it so.

Meghan: Yeah, greater than any fairytale you’ve ever read.

Oprah: Greater than any fairytale.

Meghan: Yeah, yeah.

Oprah: What you’ve described here today — being trapped and not even being aware of it and all the things that had transpired, and then she comes into your life and then you’re doing therapy — do you think in some way she saved you?

Harry: Yeah. Without question. There was . . . there was a bigger purpose. There was other forces at play, I think, throughout this whole process. I’m the last person to think, ‘Ooh!’ You know? But it’s undeniable when these things have happened, where the overlap is. So yeah, she did. Without question she saved me.

Meghan: And I would . . . I would . . . I mean, I think that’s lovely. I would disagree. I think he saved all of us, right? He ultimately called it and was like, ‘We’ve got to find a way for us, for Archie’. And you made a decision that saved . . . certainly saved my life and saved all of us. But, you know, you need to want to be saved.

Oprah: Well, thank you for sharing your love story. We can’t wait for the big day some time this summer.

Meghan: Yes, indeed.

Oprah: Sometime this summer.

Meghan: Yeah.

Oprah: Thank you both for trusting me to share your story.

END OF THE INTERVIEW

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”Oprah: And I know that’s a loaded question, but . . . 

Meghan: But I can give you an honest answer. In those months when I was pregnant, all around this same time . . . so we have in tandem the conversation of ‘He won’t be given security, he’s not going to be given a title’ and also concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he’s born.

Oprah: What?

Meghan: And . . . 

Oprah: Who . . . who is having that conversation with you? What?

Meghan: So . . . 

Oprah: There is a conversation . . . hold on. Hold up. Hold up. Stop right now.

Meghan: There were . . . there were several conversations about it.

Oprah: There’s a conversation with you . . ? 

Meghan: With Harry.

Oprah: About how dark your baby is going to be?

Meghan: Potentially, and what that would mean or look like.

Oprah: Whoo. And you’re not going to tell me who had the conversation?

Meghan: I think that would be very damaging to them.

Oprah: OK. So, how . . . how does one have that meeting?

There were conversations …about no security, no title… and how dark his skin might be when he’s born.

Meghan: That was relayed to me from Harry. Those were conversations that family had with him. And I think . . . 

Oprah: Whoa.”

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MEGHAN MARKLE OPRAH INTERVIEW: READ THE FULL TRANSCRIPTOF DUCHESS AND PRINCE HARRY’S BOMBSHELL CONFESSIONS

8 MARCH 2021

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14277841/meghan-markle-oprah-interview-full-transcript/

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WIKIPEDIAMEGXIT

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megxit

THE GUARDIANDOES MEGXIT MEAN MEGXIT? HAVE THE SUSSEXES REALLY ESCAPED THE ROYAL FAMILY!18 DECEMBER 2020
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/dec/18/does-megxit-mean-megxit-have-the-sussexes-really-escaped-the-royal-family

Harry and Meghan have left the UK for the US. But can they just walk away from the Firm?

It was a historic breakaway movement that divided the country, and will keep constitutional experts busy for years. Not Brexit, obviously, but Megxit, or Prince Harry and his wife Meghan’s decision to effectively resign from the royal family.

On 8 January, they confirmed plans to raise their son, Archie, overseas, free from the constraints of palace life and a media the prince felt was hounding his wife much as it once did his late mother.

What was originally planned as a soft Megxit – keeping the HRH titles, but working towards becoming self-supporting – became a hard one when Buckingham Palace ruled out the option of being half in and half out of royal life. The Sussexes moved to Los Angeles, near Meghan’s mother; shortly afterwards, Harry’s father, Prince Charles, fell ill with coronavirus back home. By summer the prince was rumoured to be struggling to adjust to his new life, although Meghan’s recent revelation that she had a miscarriage in July sheds new light on what was evidently a sad time for the couple.

Yet the year ends on a more settled note. The Sussexes have signed deals with Netflix and Spotify to produce documentaries and podcasts, declared financial independence by refunding the £2.4m in public money spent renovating their British base at Frogmore Cottage, and postponed (for undisclosed personal reasons) a potentially messy court hearing over the Mail on Sunday’spublication ofa letter from Meghan to her father. So has this experiment in quasi-royal living worked?

“You can see from Meghan’s reactions in discussions that have been posted online that she’s really happy to be back in the US,” says Victoria Murphy, royal correspondent for Town & Country magazine and the author of Sixty Glorious Years: Queen Elizabeth II. “If you imagine what they might have hoped to achieve when they decided to go their own way, I’d say they have ticked a lot of those boxes.”

Had she been a working princess, the duchess might well have found it harder to reflect on the Black Lives Matter movement (in a virtual address to her old school’s summer commencement ceremony) or urge Americans to vote in a bitterly contested presidential election. Harry’s relaxed but moving cameo appearance on Strictly Come Dancing tosupportcontestant JJ Chalmers, a fellow ex-soldier wounded in Afghanistan, meanwhile, was a reminder that he can now engage with the media only on terms that suit him.

Yet their ongoing relationship with the Firm remains a work in progress. “Harry’s relationship to the crown is not going to lessen over time; if anything it will be closer when he is the son, rather than grandson of the monarch,” says Murphy. “So everything they do publicly will always be discussed in the context of the royal family.” And there have been awkward moments; the palace’s refusal to let Harry send a wreath for laying at the Cenotaph on Remembrance Day looked petty, given he has served in combat. Drafting the Queen’s annual Christmas message may also be a challenge, although Murphy points out the monarch usually glosses over personal difficulties. Meanwhile, the latest series of The Crown, which portrays the young Harry and William as little boys swimming in a dysfunctional goldfish bowl, seems likely only to increase millennial sympathy for the Sussexes. Who would want that life for their own child?

END OF THE ARTICLE

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PEOPLEMEGHAN MARKLE AND PRINCE HARRY HAVE LEFTCANADA AND NOW SETTLED IN L.A.26 MARCH 2020
https://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-have-left-canada-and-are-now-settled-in-the-l-a-area/

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have moved to Los Angeles

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have moved to Los AngelesBy Monique JessenSimon Perry and Erin HillMarch 26, 2020 05:10 PM
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry have left Vancouver Island in Canada for the U.S., a source tells PEOPLE.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex moved from the home they were staying in on Vancouver Island and are now settled in the U.S., the source says. They are in Los Angeles — Meghan’s hometown. They have been living in a secluded compound and haven’t ventured out amid the coronavirus pandemic.

A representative for the couple had no comment.

Although the couple and their 10-month-old son Archie had been living in Canada since announcing they were stepping back from their royal roles in January, sources told PEOPLE that they had been making plans to spend time in L.A.

Meghan, 38, has a big support system in L.A., including her mother Doria Ragland, who works as a social worker and yoga instructor, and several friends who visited the couple on Vancouver Island.

A person in their circle previously told PEOPLE that they were “looking at houses in L.A.”

“Harry is looking straight ahead at his future with his family,” another source said. “They will be spending time in California…He’s not looking back.”

On Wednesday, it was announced that Harry’s father Prince Charles, 71, tested positive for the coronavirus.

Prince Charles has spoken to his sons Prince William and Prince Harry to share the news of his positive coronavirus diagnosis, the palace confirms.

Charles was last with his sons William and Harry in public on March 9 at the annual Commonwealth Service at Westminster Abbey. The event marked Harry and wife Meghan Markle’s last official royal event in the U.K. before they officially step down as senior working royals on March 31.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have shared messages of support amid the coronavirus pandemic.

“These are uncertain times. And now, more than ever, we need each other. We need each other for truth, for support, and to feel less alone during a time that can honestly feel quite scary,” they wrote on Instagram last week. “There are so many around the world who need support right now, who are working tirelessly to respond to this crisis behind the scenes, on the frontline, or at home. Our willingness, as a people, to step up in the face of what we are all experiencing with COVID-19 is awe-inspiring. This moment is as true a testament there is to the human spirit.”

On Monday, they paid tribute to healthcare workers in a post, saying: “Around the world, the response from people in every walk of life, to protect and look out for their communities has been inspiring. None more so than the brave and dedicated healthcare workers on the frontline, risking their own well-being to care for the sick and fight COVID-19. Wherever you are in the world, we are all incredibly grateful.”

Meghan’s first post-royal gig was announced on Thursday. The Duchess of Sussex has provided the narration for the upcoming Disneynature documentary, Elephant, streaming on April 3 on Disney+.

END OF THE ARTICLE

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”The Sussexes are reportedly happier than ever now that they’ve settled into their new Montecito home with their son, Archie, and feel like they’ve become an even stronger couple during the past several months, Prince Harry is “thriving,” per Us Weekly, and has “grown in confidence…Harry isn’t looking back.”

THE OBSERVER

THE OBSERVERPRINCE HARRY AND MEGHAN ARE HAPPIER THAN EVER WITHTHEIR NEW LIFE IN MONTECITO
https://observer.com/2021/01/prince-harry-meghan-markle-happiest-stronger-post-royal-life-montecito/

It’s been exactly one year since Prince Harry and Meghan Markle announced their intention to step down as senior royals, and over the past 12 months, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex moved to California, purchased their first home together, signed a huge Netflix deal and launched their nonprofit, Archewell.

The Sussexes are reportedly happier than ever now that they’ve settled into their new Montecito home with their son, Archie, and feel like they’ve become an even stronger couple during the past several months, Prince Harry is “thriving,” per Us Weekly, and has “grown in confidence…Harry isn’t looking back.”

While Prince Harry and Meghan’s move was dubbed “Megxit” by a number of media outlets, that term seems to be a major misnomer, as it was actually Prince Harry who was the main force behind the final move, according to a new report in Vanity Fair. Meghan was “simply the catalyst,” as it “came to the point where [Prince Harry] wanted a different way of life.”

Prince Harry and Meghan’s announcement last year came as a shock to many, though, and the royal family was reportedly taken aback by the Sussexes’ decision to release a statement before the details of the exit deal had been finalized.  The Duke and Duchess of Sussex had actually been carefully working on the plan for months, per Vanity Fair, and only had to make their announcement in such a way because the news had been leaked to the press.

The royals weren’t thrilled with the way the whole situation unfolded, and the already tense relationship between Prince William and Prince Harry only worsened, as the Duke of Cambridge was reportedly so angry with his brother that he refused to join Prince Harry and Queen Elizabeth for lunch prior to the now-infamous Sandringham Summit.

Over the past several months, however, the brothers have been working to repair their relationship, and though they haven’t been able to see each other in-person in nearly a year due to the COVID-19 crisis, they’ve been talking more regularly, and are hoping to reunite in the U.K. in the next few months, in time for Prince Philip’s milestone 100th birthday celebration in June, as well as for the unveiling of a statue in Princess Diana’s honor in the Sunken Garden at Kensington Palace over the summer. Prince William and Kate Middleton are also reportedly planning on making a big trip to the Sussexes’ side of the pond, as the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are hoping to travel to Santa Barbara to see the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s new home before the end of the year.

END OF THE ARTICLE

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THE OBSERVERPRINCE HARRY AND MEGHAN ARE SO EXCITED TO GIVE ARCHIEA SIBLING
https://observer.com/2021/02/meghan-markle-prince-harry-pregnancy-royal-baby-news-excited-archie-sibling/

On Valentine’s Day, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle announced the exciting news that they’re expecting their second child. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are thrilled that they’re going to become a family of four, and are so happy that they were able to become pregnant again after suffering a miscarriage last summer.

Prince Harry and Meghan were devastated by the loss, but according to People, remained “hopeful that they would get pregnant again.” The Duke and Duchess are “overjoyed” that it happened so quickly, as they always wanted to give their son, Archie, a sibling that’s close in age.

The Sussexes are “super excited” that Archie will have sibling, as they’ve long planned on having two children. Archie turns two in May, and while Prince Harry and Meghan haven’t disclosed any details, a royal source told Us Weekly that Meghan is due in late spring.

If true, that means that Archie will be approximately two years older than his little sibling, which is just about the same age gap as Prince Harry and Prince William.

Prince Harry and Meghan are delighted by the pregnancy, though they were understandably both nervous after the miscarriage they experienced last year. “It took them a while before they could fully relax and enjoy this pregnancy,” per People, but now they’ve been able to take it all in.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are in full nesting mode, and have already begun designing the nursery at their nine-bedroom Montecito home, where there is plenty of room for their children to play around. Indeed, immediately upon moving into the Santa Barbara mansion, Prince Harry and Meghan made sure that there were special spaces for Archie, including an outdoor play area.

While the Sussexes have remained quiet about the pregnancy since their big reveal, eager royal watchers might get a bit more info on the royal baby soon, as Prince Harry and Meghan are sitting down for a special interview with Oprah Winfrey that’s set to air March 7, and per Oprah’s pal Gayle King, “nothing is off-limits.”

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”Oprah: So, hi.

Harry: Hello.

Oprah: Thanks for joining us.

Harry: Thanks for having me.

Oprah: You’ve been watching on the side, yeah?

Harry: Some of it.

Oprah: Yes. I want to say, first of all, let’s say congratulations . . . 

Harry: Thank you.

Oprah: . . . for the new addition to your family. Meghan said she wanted to wait until you were here to tell us, is it a boy or is it a girl?

Meghan: You can tell her.

Harry: No, go for it.

Meghan: No, no.

Harry: It’s a girl.

Oprah: (Squeals)

Meghan: It’s a girl.

Harry: Yes!

Oprah: You’re going to have a daughter. Wow.

Meghan: It’s a girl.”

OPRAH WINFREY MEETS PRINCE HARRY AND HIS WIFE MEGHAN

MARKLE/FULL TEXT OF THE INTERVIEW

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BBC

MEGHAN, DUCHESS OF SUSSEX, TELLS OF

MISCARRIAGE ”PAIN AND GRIEF

20 NOVEMBER 2020

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55068783

The Duchess of Sussex has revealed she had a miscarriage in July, writing in an article of feeling “an almost unbearable grief”.

“I knew, as I clutched my firstborn child, that I was losing my second,” Meghan said in a piece for the New York Times.

She went on to describe how she watched “my husband’s heart break as he tried to hold the shattered pieces of mine”.

Meghan wrote that “loss and pain have plagued every one of us in 2020”.

The 39-year-old shared her experience to urge people to “commit to asking others, ‘are you OK?'” over the Thanksgiving holiday in the US.

A source close to the duchess confirmed to the BBC that the duchess is currently in good health and the couple wanted to talk about what happened in July, having come to appreciate how common miscarriage is.

A Buckingham Palace spokesman said: “It’s a deeply personal matter we would not comment on.”

The duchess and Prince Harry, the Duke of Sussex, moved to California to live away from the media spotlight, after stepping back as senior royals in January.

Their first child, Archie, was born on 6 May 2019.

The duchess began her article by describing a “sharp cramp” she felt while looking after Archie.

“I dropped to the floor with him in my arms, humming a lullaby to keep us both calm, the cheerful tune a stark contrast to my sense that something was not right,” she wrote.

“Hours later, I lay in a hospital bed, holding my husband’s hand. I felt the clamminess of his palm and kissed his knuckles, wet from both our tears.

“Staring at the cold white walls, my eyes glazed over. I tried to imagine how we’d heal.”

AN ANALYSIS BY JONNY DEMOND

ROYAL CORRESPONDENT

Meghan made it clear from the first event that she spoke at as Harry’s bride-to-be that she wanted women’s voices and women’s experiences to be heard more clearly.

Now she has written of her loss, and her heartbreak. She has set it in the context of a year of breathtaking turbulence. And she has made a plea for tolerance and compassion.

She weaves in the struggles of so many with Covid-19, the battles over truth and lies in our divided age, the killing of black Americans by the police.

And on an experience that so many women have lived through, she has made her grief a way of bringing miscarriage closer to the everyday conversation.

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The duchess continued: “Losing a child means carrying an almost unbearable grief, experienced by many but talked about by few.

“In the pain of our loss, my husband and I discovered that in a room of 100 women, 10 to 20 of them will have suffered from miscarriage.

“Yet despite the staggering commonality of this pain, the conversation remains taboo, riddled with (unwarranted) shame, and perpetuating a cycle of solitary mourning.

“Some have bravely shared their stories; they have opened the door, knowing that when one person speaks truth, it gives license for all of us to do the same.”

The duchess also referenced a TV interview in which she was asked by a journalist if she was ok, during her tour of South Africa last year.

She said she was asked the question during a time in which she was “trying to keep a brave face in the very public eye”.

“I answered him honestly, not knowing that what I said would resonate with so many – new moms and older ones, and anyone who had, in their own way, been silently suffering,” she said.

The duchess is the second member of the Royal Family to open up about having a miscarriage.

In 2018 the Queen’s granddaughter Zara Tindall spoke about suffering two miscarriages before having her second child.

The duchess’s miscarriage happened at a time when she was involved in legal action against the Mail on Sunday over the publication of a letter she wrote to her father. Last month she was granted a postponement of her privacy trial until autumn next year.

‘Breaking down stigma’

An estimated one in four pregnancies ends in a miscarriage, according to the charity Tommy’s.

Tommy’s midwife Sophie King said talking about baby loss in pregnancy is “a real taboo in society” so “mothers like Meghan sharing their stories is a vital step in breaking down that stigma and shame”.

She said the duchess’s “honesty and openness” sends a “powerful message to anyone who loses a baby: this may feel incredibly lonely, but you are not alone”.

Clea Harmer, chief executive of stillbirth and neonatal death charity Sands, said it was a “sad reality” there was a stigma surrounding pregnancy loss and baby death, which “leaves many parents feeling isolated”.

“The isolation we have all felt this year has made it even more difficult for parents whose baby has died during the Covid-19 pandemic and has brought back painful emotions for all those who have lost precious loved ones,” she said.

Dr Christine Ekechi, of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, said it was “important” that any stigma or shame surrounding this issue was removed.

“Sadly, early miscarriages are very common and they can be a devastating loss for parents and their families,” she said.

And Alice Weeden, from charity the Miscarriage Association, told the BBC: “When somebody, particularly in the public eye, talks about it openly, it’s helpful for other people to know that they are not alone.”

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MISCARRIAGE: A DEEP AND LASTING IMPACT ON PARENTS

BY SMITHA MUNDASAD, BBC HEALTH REPORTER

By Smitha Mundasad, BBC health reporter

There are around 250,000 miscarriages every year in the UK alone, the majority occurring within the first 12 weeks of pregnancy.

It is a shockingly common experience, often dealt with privately at home or swiftly in hospitals.

Many parents carry their grief silently and can feel society expects them to “get back to normal life” too soon.

But charities and scientists say much more needs to be done to acknowledge the longer-term effects of pregnancy loss.

Research suggests that one in six women go on to have symptoms of post-traumatic stress.

For some, nightmares and flashbacks continue for many months while anxiety and depression are also common afterwards.

Partners report suffering too, with one in 12 facing similar issues.

Pregnancy experts in the UK say it is vital that women and partners are offered psychological support, alongside physical help, yet this kind of care is often under-resourced.

Often, it is not known why miscarriages occur – whether in the first or second trimester of pregnancy, and many pregnancy losses cannot be prevented.

Usually, something goes wrong with the development of the foetus in the womb.

Warning signs can include bleeding and/or cramping pain in the lower tummy.

Pregnant women are advised to seek medical advice if they have either of these symptoms.
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THE GUARDIANMEGHAN, DUCHESS OF SUSSEX, REVEALS SHE HAD A MISCARRIAGE
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/nov/25/meghan-markle-duchess-of-sussex-reveals-she-had-miscarriage

Duchess writes about her grief and pain in losing a baby, and addresses the stigma of miscarriage

The Duchess of Sussex has revealed her grief after suffering a miscarriage, in an article that speaks to loss and the importance of asking about others’ welfare in times of pandemic and polarisation.

Meghan shared the devastation that she and Prince Harry felt after she lost a baby in July and was admitted to hospital.

Writing in the New York Times, she described the moment, as she was changing the couple’s son Archie’s nappy at their home in Los Angeles, that she “dropped to the floor” in pain.

“I knew, as I clutched my firstborn child that I was losing my second,” she wrote. “Hours later, I lay in a hospital bed, holding my husband’s hand. I felt the clamminess of his palm and kissed his knuckles, wet from both our tears. Staring at the cold white walls, my eyes glazed over. I tried to imagine how we’d heal.”Advertisement

She added that “watching her husband’s heart break as he tried to hold the shattered pieces of mine”, she realised that the only way to begin to heal “is to first ask: ‘Are you OK.’”

Addressing the stigma surrounding miscarriage, Meghan continued: “Losing a child means carrying an almost unbearable grief, experienced by many but talked about by few.”

In the pain of their loss, the couple had discovered that “in a room of 100 women, 10 to 20 of them will have suffered from miscarriage,” she wrote. “Yet despite the staggering commonality of this pain, the conversation remains taboo, riddled with (unwarranted) shame, and perpetuating a cycle of solitary mourning.”

Those who had bravely shared their stories had given licence for others to do the same. It was important to ask other women how they were doing. “In being invited to share our pain, together we take the first steps toward healing,” she wrote.

She referred to her TV interview in South Africa, given when she was “exhausted” and breastfeeding and “trying to keep a brave face” in the public eye. The ITN journalist Tom Bradby asked if she was OK, and she answered him honestly, she recalled. “‘Thank you for asking,’ I said, ‘Not many people have asked if I’m OK.’”

Her off-the cuff remark, she said, “seemed to give people permission to speak their truth”. But it was not her answering honestly “that helped me most, it was the question itself”.

In the New York Times article, headlined “The Losses We Share – Perhaps the path to healing begins with three simple words: Are You OK?” she wrote that loss and pain had plagued many in 2020.

She referenced those whose loved ones had died from Covid-19. She also addressed the deaths of Breonna Taylor, a Louisville hospital worker, and George Floyd, both killed by police officers.

The world had become polarised – over facts, over science, “over whether an election has been lost or won”, she wrote. “That polarization, coupled with the social isolation required to fight this pandemic, has left us feeling more alone than ever.”

At Thanksgiving, with the pandemic separating many from their loved ones, “alone, sick, scared, divided and perhaps struggling to find something, anything, to be grateful for,” she wrote, “let us commit to asking others: ‘Are you OK?’”

The new normal, with masks concealing faces, was forcing people to look into each other’s eyes “sometimes filled with warmth, other times with tears”, she added. “For the first time, in a long time, as human beings, we are really seeing one another. Are we OK? We will be.”

Buckingham Palace made no comment, saying it was a deeply personal matter for the couple. Sources said there was understandable sadness in the royal family.

Responding to Meghan’s article, Dr Christine Ekechi, of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, said miscarriage remained a taboo subject.

She said: “Sadly, early miscarriages are very common and they can be a devastating loss for parents and their families. Up to one in five women may experience a miscarriage in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy.

“In many circumstances, the reason for the miscarriage is unknown. We are improving our understanding of why miscarriages occur and who may be at risk, but the topic is still largely under-researched and the care for women and their partners under-resourced.

“Currently, many miscarriages cannot be prevented, however. A warning sign of miscarriage occurring may be bleeding and/or pain in early pregnancy. Pregnant women are advised to seek medical advice if they have any of these symptoms.

“Miscarriage remains a taboo subject, despite how common it is. It is important that we remove any stigma or shame surrounding this issue and adequately support families during this time.”

Zara Tindall, the daughter of the princess royal, and married to the former England rugby captain Mike Tindall, lost two babies to miscarriage before giving birth to the couple’s second daughter, Lena.

The first miscarriage occurred after the couple had publicly announced the pregnancy. She said she received so many letters saying “‘we’ve been through the same thing,’, which was incredible, it just showed how often it does happen,” she said in 2018. She also spoke about the effect on fathers, who felt helpless, saying “it’s hard for those guys, too”. It was a “horrible road”.

The Countess of Wessex spoke of her sadness at losing an unborn baby after having an ectopic pregnancy and collapsing at home in 2001. She and Prince Edward went on to have a daughter and a son.

At the time, Sophie, who required hospital treatment, said: “I’m obviously very sad – but it was just not meant to be. But there will be other chances.” Edward said at the time losing the baby in such a way “was about the most painful thing anyone can undergo”.
END OF THE ARTICLE

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BBCPRINCE HARRY AND MEGHAN SIGN SPOTIFY PODCAST DEAL16 DECEMBER 2020
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55327171

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have signed a deal with streaming service Spotify to produce and host podcasts.

Prince Harry and Meghan’s charity will receive an undisclosed sum from the partnership between their production company, Archewell Audio, and Spotify.

In a trailer, Prince Harry and Meghan promised “different perspectives” and interviews with “amazing people”.

It comes after the couple this year signed a Netflix deal to produce a range of programmes and series.

Their first podcast, due for release during the Christmas period, is described as a holiday special.

The trailer on the Spotify’s website features the duke and duchess promoting the deal, with Harry saying: “That’s what this project is all about, to bring forward different perspectives and voices that perhaps you haven’t heard before and find our common ground.”

About the first podcast episode, Meghan said: “We’re talking to some amazing people, they’re going to share their memories that have really helped shape this past year which has been, as we know, a difficult one for everyone.”

Prince Harry said: “So many people have been through so much pain this year, experiencing loss, a huge amount of uncertainty, but it feels worth acknowledging that 2020 has connected us in ways we could have never imagined, through endless acts of compassion and kindness.”

The couple are now living in California after announcing in January that they would be stepping back as senior royals.

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” They added that Netflix’s “unprecedented reach will help us share impactful content that unlocks action.” Netflix currently houses more than 200 million global subscribers.”
THE OBSERVERHARRY AND MEGHAN’S BIG HOLLYOOD DEALSHELPED THEN WEATHER THE FAMILY CHAOS
https://observer.com/2021/03/prince-harry-meghan-markle-netflix-spotify-deals-value-salary/

Speaking with Oprah Winfrey in a tell-all interview Sunday night on CBS, Prince Harry revealed that the royal family “literally cut me off financially” after he and Meghan Markle stepped away from royal duties. The Prince said the pair were cut off in the first quarter of 2020 shortly after publicly announcing that they would no longer be active working royals. Harry cited the money left to him by his late mother, Princess Diana, as a huge help at this time in their lives.

“Without that, we wouldn’t have been able to do this,” he said of the family’s move to California.

But the pair have been shrewd about planning their future amid a tumultuous split from the royal family and the financial stability that comes with it. In September, six months after their split from the House of Windsor, the duo signed a multiyear deal with Netflix to produce documentaries, series, feature films, scripted shows and children’s programming.

“Our focus will be on creating content that informs but also gives hope,” the couple said in a statement at the time of the announcement, per the New York Times. “As new parents, making inspirational family programming is also important to us.” They added that Netflix’s “unprecedented reach will help us share impactful content that unlocks action.” Netflix currently houses more than 200 million global subscribers.

Though it remains unconfirmed, estimates and reports peg the value of the deal at north of $100 million.

We’re incredibly proud they have chosen Netflix as their creative home and are excited about telling stories with them that can help build resilience and increase understanding for audiences everywhere,” Ted Sarandos, Netflix’s co-chief executive and chief content officer, said in a September statement.

In December, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex also entered a partnership with Spotify through their production company, Archewell Audio. The pair will host and produce podcasts in a deal estimated to be worth around $25 million. Harry and Meghan hope to promote “different perspectives” and feature interviews with “amazing people.” Their first episode, a 2020 holiday special, arrived on the service Dec. 29 and featured famous guest appearances from Sir Elton John, James Corden, tennis champion Naomi Osaka, author Deepak Chopra, spoken word performer George the Poet, filmmaker Tyler Perry, and British activist Christina Adane.

In a recent appearance for Spotify’s Stream On event, the couple stated that they are “using podcasts to drive powerful conversations that inspire, challenge and educate.”

One of the first projects under the pair’s Netflix deal will be an animated series focused on inspiring women, which is reportedly already in development. But, a future in streaming was not a considered possibility at the time of the couple’s split from Windsor

“This was never the intention,” Harry told Winfrey during the couple’s Sunday night interview. “We’re certainly not complaining, our life is great now, we’ve got a beautiful house, I’ve got a beautiful family. The dogs are really happy. At the time during Covid, the suggestion by a friend was ‘what about streamers?’ and we hadn’t thought about it. There were all sorts of different options and from my perspective, I just needed enough money to pay for security to keep my family safe.”

“Life is about storytelling,” added Markle. “For us to be able to have storytelling through a truthful lens that is hopefully uplifting is going to be great, knowing how many people that can land with and be able to give a voice to a lot of people that are underrepresented and aren’t really heard.”

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THE OBSERVERPRINCE HARRY AND MEGHAN TOLD QUEEN ELIZABETHTHEY WON’T RETURN TO ROYAL ROLES19 FEBRUARI 2021
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THE INDEPENDENTIS HARRY STILL A PRINCE AFTER LEAVING ROYAL DUTIES?8 MAART 2021
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MEGHAN MARKLE AND PRINCE HARRY’S SON IS NOTA PRINCE BUT HE’S STILL IN LINE FOR THE BRITISH THRONE12 MARCH 2021
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-12/who-is-in-the-line-to-the-british-throne-royal-family-tree/13243558
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OBSERVERPRINCE HARRY AND MEGHAN AREN’T HAPPY ABOUT LOSINGTHEIR ROYAL PATRONAGES24 FEBRUARY 2021
https://observer.com/2021/02/meghan-markle-prince-harry-royal-patronages-exit-reaction-not-happy-queen-elizabeth/
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